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julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
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the people have spoken......

viva ramirez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Uh... wow.

    Though Ramirez leads Pujols in "Postseason Games Played", Pujols stands far above Ramirez in just about every meanignful batting statistic.
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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Geez and I just listed a game used patch and auto this morning...I may want to consider revising the listing lol.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Hank Aaron awards don't always translate into MVP awards though. Only 6 out of the previous 18 Hank Aaron Awards went to a guys who went on to win the MVP award in the same year.
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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Very true, I would think his chances are slim to none for the MVP.
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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have purposely laid off of posting about Pujols and his awards this year because every time someone does, they get hammered. However, I would like to respond to this.

    Aramis Ramirez won the Hank Aaron award which goes to the best offensive performer. It is voted on partially (if not mostly) by the fans. I have not seen so much as one post on how many awards Pujols has ALREADY won this year alone.

    He has won the following:

    The Sporting News Player of the Year.
    The NL Most Outstanding Player (Voted on by the Players)
    The MLB Player of the Year (Voted on by the Players)
    The Roberto Clemente Award (this award combines on field skill and service off the field).

    Shane

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now, the above post was to simply mention the awards that Pujols has already won, despite nobody even mentioning it.

    This post is to destroy the notion that the Hank Aaron Award has ANY credibility.

    Aramis Ramirez (Cubs) .289 BA, .380 OBP, .518 Slgng%, 27 HR, 111 RBI

    A. Pujols (Cards): .357 BA, .462 OBP, .653 Slng%, 37 HR, 116 RBI -better in all categories
    R. Ludwick (Cards): .299 BA, .375 OBP, .591 Slng%, 37 HR, 113 RBI -better in all but OBP
    L. Berkman (Astros): .312 BA, .420 OBP, .567 Slgng%, 29 HR, 106 RBI- better in all but RBIs

    That shows that at least 3 players deserve the award more than Aramis Ramirez.



    Now, lets compare Pujols to Ramirez head to head in each category.

    Runs - Pujols 100; Ramirez 97; Pujols better

    Hits - Pujols 187; Ramirez 160; Pujols better

    Doubles - Pujols 44; Ramirez 44; tie

    Triples - Pujols 0; Ramirez 1; Ramirez better

    HR - Pujols 37; Ramirez 27; Pujols better

    RBI - Pujols 116; Ramirez 111; Pujols better

    Stolen Bases - Pujols 7; Ramirez 2; Pujols better

    Walks - Pujols 104; Ramirez 74; Pujols better

    Strike Outs - Pujols 54; Ramirez 94; Pujols better

    Batting Average - Pujols .357; Ramirez .289; Pujols better

    On Base Percentage - Pujols .462; Ramirez .380; Pujols better

    Slugging - Pujols .653; Ramirez .518; Pujols better

    OPS - Pujols 1.115; Ramirez .898; Pujols better


    Conclusion - Ramirez is much better offensively because he out tripled him by 1! Congratulations Aramis Ramirez! image

    Shane

  • artistlostartistlost Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭
    I would love to throw out there that Youk over in Boston won for the AL. I think that there could have been a better choice there too.

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  • cwazzycwazzy Posts: 3,257 ✭
    I really wish they would take the vote for any award away from the "fans". And I will go ahead and include the All-Star game voting in this. The average fan is too uneducated beyond their favorite team to be allowed to vote.

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  • bdunndchibdunndchi Posts: 650


    << <i>Very true, I would think his chances are slim to none for the MVP. >>



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  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like Selig hiding the background.

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  • leathtechleathtech Posts: 3,191 ✭
    The Cubs fans have spoken... now live with the results of this meaningless award! I think Ramirez would give the award back if could mean the Cubs could win just 1 playoff game.
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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    I'd take Ryan Howard and his 199 strikeouts over either of them.

    Howard:
    48 homers
    146 RBI
    105 runs
    DOB: 11/19/1979

    Ramirez:
    27 homers
    111 RBI
    97 runs
    DOB: 6/25/1978

    Pujols:
    37 homers
    116 RBI
    100 runs
    DOB: 1/16/1963
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>I really wish they would take the vote for any award away from the "fans". ... The average fan is too uneducated beyond their favorite team to be allowed to vote. >>



    Let the fans have their award. Besides, it's the MVP award, not the HAA, that everyone remembers.
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  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Pujols:
    37 homers
    116 RBI
    100 runs
    DOB: 1/16/1963 >>




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  • StanTheManMusialStanTheManMusial Posts: 2,053 ✭
    Even though I realize that Pujols got screwed out of the Hank Aaron Award, I will sit patiently waiting for his MVP award to come in November. image

  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    never heard of itimage
  • cwazzycwazzy Posts: 3,257 ✭


    << <i>Even though I realize that Pujols got screwed out of the Hank Aaron Award, I will sit patiently waiting for his MVP award to come in November. image >>



    Although I hope you are right and believe he is the most diserving, I think you are dreaming if you think he will win it. But I hope I'm wrong.

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    Win or lose I am sure Mr. Parenthesis will add another MVP trophy to his tag line!
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought the Hank Aaron Award was supposed to go to the best hitter in each league. Obviously not. It's just a popularity contest.

    Ramirez
    .289-27-111-97-2

    Pujols
    .357-37-116-100-7

    I like Ramirez. I think he's very underrated. But COME ON NOW!
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  • StanTheManMusialStanTheManMusial Posts: 2,053 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Even though I realize that Pujols got screwed out of the Hank Aaron Award, I will sit patiently waiting for his MVP award to come in November. image >>



    Although I hope you are right and believe he is the most diserving, I think you are dreaming if you think he will win it. But I hope I'm wrong.

    Chris >>



    No dreaming here..

    Who's more deserving? No one has his stats. .357, 37 homeruns, 116 RBI, .653 slug %, .462 on base %, 100 runs scored, 100+ walks, 44 doubles. It's not even close.
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