check out my purchase.. I am pumped.. ( NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE ) PSA HAS SPOKEN
OAKESY25
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Personally, I would get it authenticated right away and hold the seller accountable on their money back guarantee if it did not pass for any reason. If it is the real deal, you got one heck of a bargain.
Snorto~
that is one sweet looking ball!
the sigs are crisp and most look like 9s and 10s.
I have one that has Mantle and Williams sharing the sweet spot, also.
I hope you're going to sub it to PSA/DNA .... what a gem!
Congrats!
PoppaJ
and all the sigs look like the real deal
I feel pretty dang lucky
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<< <i>Please do yourself a big favor and get a psa/dna quick opinion before you send any money to the seller. I don't know if psa does it after auctions close but you should try asap. You should have done it before you bid at all. You'll thank me later. Personally , i would not have bid on it at any price. Just my opinion. P. >>
Just FYI: PSA will do the quick opinion even after the auction is over. Have had to do it a couple times myself.
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Bosox1976
I would feel sketchy about it.. if his feedback was not so good..
I like a gamble.. I think all things being said this is a good bet
<< <i>that is exactly what I plan to do.. the guy has 6k + feedback at 100%
and all the sigs look like the real deal
I feel pretty dang lucky >>
Sometimes it's nice to find a ball or card that hasn't already been authenticated.
By not being authenticated, the selling price kept from soaring into the unknown.
There are many great buys out there and looks like you made one of them!
I took a chance on a raw 1965 Challenge the Yankees Mantle card; I won it for $35; subbed it to PSA,
and it came back a 7. POP of 2 with none higher! Not bad for a $1000-$1500 registry card.
The seller, bobbyf, is a 10 year eBay veteran and has never received a negative feedback and has only
recently received a few neutrals from a neurotic buyer who has a history of sending lots of negs/neutrals.
So, I feel pretty confident that the sigs are real, plus they look authentic compared to the sigs I have.
PoppaJ
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<< <i>Glad to see psa/dna provides a quick opinion after auctions close. I don't think the buyer is going to like their response though. P. >>
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SUNTZ,
I say the ball passes PSA/DNA.
Just curious, what makes you think the ball wouldn't pass?
Pessimistic? .... or just a Guess? .... Sig Authenticity Experience?
PoppaJ >>
I guess a little of everything your saying except guess. I've been collecting autographs for 25years and I personally feel confident that jsa , psa or Richard Simon would NOT pass that ball. I think Richard Simon is a member of this board I would love to here his opinion. Also, like a previous member posted, the M's in Mickey Mantle are off and " A "the Williams is open ended. These are not signs of authentic sigs. I'm not saying I can't be wrong but I have personally be in front of all the 500 members on that ball on multiple occasions and I've even attended the Original 500hr show in AC . I can only speak for myself and say that I would not have bought the ball. The 500hr ball is forged by the thousands. If you read Operation Bullpen you'll see that the FBI busted the guys that cranked these out by the caseload. Respectfully, P.
<< <i>I'd like some opinions on the Mantle and the Williams. Mantle seems legit. Williams looks good too. >>
The Mantle and Williams sigs are dead on, in my opinion.
I have numerous sigs of both and though I'm not an expert, I'd wager my best 52 Mantle that the ball and
every sig is authentic.
Though there are many fakes out there, please don't discount the fact that there aren't any authentic
items either. There are plenty.
Pessimism has kept many a buyer from making a sweet deal.
Yeah, sometimes you take a chance, and sometimes you get burnt, but not always, and I hope not often.
I go to Vegas regularly and believe it or not ... I don't always win!
Bob did what I would have done and I can't wait for him to post this ball when it comes back from PSA/DNA.
PoppaJ
p.s. I'm not really going to wage my best 52 Mantle .... but maybe my worst!
That ball's signatures are forgeries. That looks to be one of the old Marino balls. Bogus junk. I hope you can get your money back. I am not trying to be mean, or rain on your parade, so to speak. I'm just being honest with you. If PSA or JSA reviews it, you will find out what I'm saying.
Magnum44, pm sent.
Poppa I'll take that wager before Allen sees it.
Steve
( have numerous sigs of both and though I'm not an expert, I'd wager my best 52 Mantle that the ball and
every sig is authentic.)
J/K
gl w/ verification & all that -ish.
J
RIP GURU
Unless you are there getting it done in person one must assume that it will be a fake.
Oaksey I am sure (hope) used a CC.
Steve
<< <i> And does anyone think that the Mays looks legit? >>
no
Richard Simon for a fee will look at it too.
Steve
<< <i>We all can speculate all we want with regards to if the ball is authentic.
Richard Simon for a fee will look at it too.
Steve >>
Oakesy might get an educated guess if he posts it over at 54. I would trust Richard Simon's opinion more than some of the more known authenticators for sure.
Steve
<< <i>I have to say that most if not all of those signatures are forgeries. I would recommend stopping payment before the piece is sent. >>
Well, if "most" are than I have have to believe that "all" are. I doubt if someone would take a baseball with say a legit Mays autograph, and then sign it with a fake Mantle, Williams, etc...
Steve
<< <i>Wow, you stole it >>
That is the quote you edited, right stevek? Whats the matter, you dont think its a great deal anymore?
Response: "Likely Not Genuine"
Here are the details of your Request:
Comments:
Request ID: 57455
Request By: 10/28/2008
Thank you choosing the QuickOpinion service!
he is very nice.. he said he bought it from a guy who supposedly was one of the people sitting with each signer..
he said they were paid with a signed ball by all the members.. anyway.. I am disappointed.. I don't collect autograph's
but I was excited to own this..
Bosox1976
<< <i>I have been in contact with the seller.. who already shipped it but said to send it back and he will refund right away..
he is very nice.. he said he bought it from a guy who supposedly was one of the people sitting with each signer..
he said they were paid with a signed ball by all the members.. anyway.. I am disappointed.. I don't collect autograph's
but I was excited to own this.. >>
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Bob,
I feel your disappointment. I really believed that the ball was legit and though you have gracefully accepted
PSA's QO decision, I'm still not totally convinced. I think it's my stubborn Italian blood.
I respect the opinions and help that all of the other board members gave you.
It's nice that the seller is being cooperative. That's certainly a plus!
I hope you get another chance in the near future to land something special.
Please accept my sincere apology for giving you an unintended false hope.
PoppaJ
<< <i>Your Request for Item "500 hr ball", Ebay Item No. "250311820900", opinion was rendered at "10/27/2008 7:19:26 AM" and the result was:
Response: "Likely Not Genuine"
Here are the details of your Request:
Comments:
Request ID: 57455
Request By: 10/28/2008
Thank you choosing the QuickOpinion service! >>
So does this mean all the autos are not genuine? It would be nice to know if any or deemed legit.
Sorry you thought you had a great deal but at least the seller is making it right.
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<< <i>Wow, you stole it >>
That is the quote you edited, right stevek? Whats the matter, you dont think its a great deal anymore? >>
You got it right boy. Changed my mind.
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<< <i>Wow, you stole it >>
That is the quote you edited, right stevek? Whats the matter, you dont think its a great deal anymore? >>
You got it right boy. Changed my mind. >>
Now go treat yourself to a lollipop.
Stevek I'm surprised that you of all people did not think the seller of that ball was a weasel or at the very least
thought it was legit without a COA, you are slipping, the Phillies winning all these WS games has made you soft.
Steve