Alright... it's Oct 20th, let confusion start - Ebay's new payment rules.
onefasttalon
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Beating a dead horse, I know... but I still have some confusion.
Well... today is the day, right? What a mess...
Tonight, I found several lots that I'd like to pick up from a single seller, but he states in his auction description
that he flat out refuses Paypal. He has that he accepts MO/Cashier's checks written in his listings.
I hate to be a stickler, but I'm strictly a Paypal only kinda buyer purely for protection reasons.
Should I bid with hopes to win, and insist on making a Paypal payment?
I read somewhere that there was going to be a grace period until January for sellers to revise their auctions
to remove the words "Money Order," "Cash," & "Cashier's Checks." I'm assuming that's why these auctions
are still live and haven't been pulled yet.
Anybody else take notice with listings today that state they flat out refuse Paypal payments, or any other form
of electronic payments?
Just proceed and bid, then worry about the hassle later of a sellers refusing the new policies?
Good Grief!
Well... today is the day, right? What a mess...
Tonight, I found several lots that I'd like to pick up from a single seller, but he states in his auction description
that he flat out refuses Paypal. He has that he accepts MO/Cashier's checks written in his listings.
I hate to be a stickler, but I'm strictly a Paypal only kinda buyer purely for protection reasons.
Should I bid with hopes to win, and insist on making a Paypal payment?
I read somewhere that there was going to be a grace period until January for sellers to revise their auctions
to remove the words "Money Order," "Cash," & "Cashier's Checks." I'm assuming that's why these auctions
are still live and haven't been pulled yet.
Anybody else take notice with listings today that state they flat out refuse Paypal payments, or any other form
of electronic payments?
Just proceed and bid, then worry about the hassle later of a sellers refusing the new policies?
Good Grief!
ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!
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<< <i>but he states in his auction description
that he flat out refuses Paypal. .....
Should I bid with hopes to win, and insist on making a Paypal payment?
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That would be a very s****y thing to do.
You should bid intending to pay via check or money order, or not bid.
As a buyer, you bid on something because, well, you ultimately want it. And unfortunately, there's [really] nothing you can do to FORCE a seller to send you the item even assuming you are the high bidder. As such, best case scenario you don't lose your money and you don't get your item. Worst case, you lose your money and you still don't get your item.
/s/ JackWESQ
P.S. Of course, all bets are off if this is a super, duper, extraordinary and rare Chris Sabo item. In which case, you might have no choice but to send payment via money order, cashier's check, etc.
JackWESQ... you're absolutely right, I completely agree. I'm just confused about this new rule... seems
kinda odd that Ebay would announce this significant change, then not hold it up.
I'm sure I wasn't the only one that spent some time editing all my store items to meet compliance.
.... oh, and nope, this isn't a Chris Sabo auction
Just curious if this rule, now supposedly in play, is as confusing to anyone else.
ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!
i have better thing to do than sit for 2 days and take out cash,mo, and ckeck from every auction- was not cool at all
Until mid-January, no listings that mention "paper payments"
will be removed; but, sellers may not "reinforce" the concept
through any other communication.
As far as I can tell, it will not be possible to list items that do
not offer PP as a payment option within the next few days/hours.
ANY seller who refuses PP or MA will receive a policy violation strike.
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It is important to note that EBAY is currently in crisis mode on other
fronts, and is not certain exactly how "all of this" is going to play out.
While I have long believed that I was the best person to "fix" EBAY,
I am now very glad that it is not my job. It is the worst mess that I
have ever seen. "Melt-Down" and "Implosion" are words that come
to mind.
I now fully understand what Donahoe meant last week when he
said, "I wish I could break it all down and start over."
The situation is both bad and sad.
..............................
For folks interested in some good background, Alan Lewis, former
senior manager in product development, is unloading about his
views of what went wrong. He is not a sour-grapes guy, and some
of his comments are "interesting."
Alan Lewis On EBAY Forum
Alan enters the chat at post 11.
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Lewis' Blog
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lucky you. It happens, probably more often than you think.
ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!
<< <i>ive never had any problems with anyone, ever sending a bad check or bogus money order in nearly 500 transactions. >>
I have a friend that bounces checks all the time... I don't think he does it on purpose just has terrible money management skills - I know there are a lot of people out there like him...
I'm glad ebay is going to paypal only - since I will only bid on auctions that offer paypal.
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Point is, I have probably accepted $500,000+ in money orders, and have only had one bad one. It was from Canada, and since I don't ship to Canada anyway, I quit accepting Canadian money orders.
<< <i>I have been selling auto parts on ebay full time since 2003. I have always accepted money orders, and never accepted checks of any type. In ebay's prime (2004-2005), I was running 60,000+ store listings. My ebay fees have got as high as $16,000 in one month. Now I am down to 8000 total listings. My eBay fees last month were just over $3000. I can only see these numbers going down from here.
Point is, I have probably accepted $500,000+ in money orders, and have only had one bad one. It was from Canada, and since I don't ship to Canada anyway, I quit accepting Canadian money orders. >>
I would think the auto part market is a little different than the sport card market. Personally I find it to be to big of a deal to have to get a money order... guess I would rather not bid on the card... but if I need a part for my car to make it run than I guess getting a money order would make some sense.
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<< <i>I have been selling auto parts on ebay full time since 2003. I have always accepted money orders, and never accepted checks of any type. In ebay's prime (2004-2005), I was running 60,000+ store listings. My ebay fees have got as high as $16,000 in one month. Now I am down to 8000 total listings. My eBay fees last month were just over $3000. I can only see these numbers going down from here.
Point is, I have probably accepted $500,000+ in money orders, and have only had one bad one. It was from Canada, and since I don't ship to Canada anyway, I quit accepting Canadian money orders. >>
I would think the auto part market is a little different than the sport card market. Personally I find it to be to big of a deal to have to get a money order... guess I would rather not bid on the card... but if I need a part for my car to make it run than I guess getting a money order would make some sense. >>
To clarify, I have always accepted PayPal as well. 90-95% of my customers pay via PayPal. I also offer direct credit card payments. The point of my post was that money orders are safe to accept. With a little research from the buyers, they are safe to send as well.
<< <i>I have seen a noticeable increase in buyers paying by checks and MO's since the change was announced. >>
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I believe it.
In ordinary times, I get three or four requests to take MOs each day.
Since the announcement, a dozen folks a day want to know if they
can pay with MOs.
It could be coincidence, or it could be the anti-PayPal troops trying to
make a point.
I do PayPal only, and never accept paper payments from folks I don't
know.
Nice to know you have a perfect feedback rating as a buyer because many on the boards think that buyers do not need a flawless feedback rating (these were sellers that enjoyed the option of negging the buyer in retaliation).
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<< <i>BunchOBull,
Nice to know you have a perfect feedback rating as a buyer because many on the boards think that buyers do not need a flawless feedback rating (these were sellers that enjoyed the option of negging the buyer in retaliation). >>
Let's make broad assumptions about everyone.
I don't think buyers need flawless feedback and I have always left feedback first as a seller. My purpose was to keep track of what was paid. I could always look at my feedback to leave and see who still owes me (and therefore what needs relisted).
Can you explain how a buyer is hurt by not having flawless feedback?
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