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Opinion Asked on this PCGS JFK

Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
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It's certified as a MS-68 but it is the most rotten thing I have ever seen to sell for $900. Am I missing something? Not a bash on Modern clads but a serious question.


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edited because I had the price wrong
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.

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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Dog97,

    It scans similar to my 68, which looks real good in person. image

    Heavy flow lines radiating from the center of the coin, slight toning on the reverse. Looks like on very minor ticks, and a couple of those look like they are probably on the holder. My only concern with it would be the dark spots on the wings of the eagle and above the arrows.

    Keith
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  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a pop 1 coin, but how long will it remain so? I'll bet there are "plenty more where that came from", namely, mint sets. Most people don't give the idea of slabbing a 5 year old half much consideration, unless they're very in-touch with the market and have good grading skills. I'll bet that pop 1 status lasts less than a year.

    It's not a bad looking coin, as modern Kennedy's go, but the Mint really ruined the design by shrinking the obverse, and re-working the detail in JFK's hair. Also, the reverse is in such low relief that the eagle looks like it got run over by a steamroller. All that just to make the coin easier to strike. If the Mint used greater pressure and it took twice as long to strike them, an entire year's production could probably be made in a couple of days. I wish they'd restore the original design.

    Jim
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    At least I waited until the auction was over in case I was missing something. image Never mind that it makes my 67 a FORMER Pop 1; mine was Pop 1 last week image The flow lines are horrid, but that's just the scan, I know it don't look that bad in person. But all the ticks, that's a lot of ticks for a 68. It has ticks or pinpr*cks all over the face, I see reed marks in the hair and some decent size ticks on rev that may or may not be on the holder like you said, especially on the D & O in DOLLAR, a scuff mark on the eagles neck, reed mark on the tail feathers. Maybe that good djvu picture is just too good. Am I too picky? Sometimes I do actually look at the coin. Anybody else see 68 here? I wouldn't bet on it remaining pop 1 for less than a year though Cocoinnut. My 67 was pop 1 for 5 years.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Dog97,

    I think the D & O are on the holder. Definitely some chatter on the neck, with at least one honest tick there above the initials. Stuff in the hair appears to be on the holder as well. Hard to say on the mark on the tail feathers, but they don't seem sharply struck to boot. Would have to see it in person to really say one way or another 67 or 68.

    Jim,

    I don't think that 1997 or 1998 were real great years for Mint Set quality. I seem to remember that those are bad years for Washington quarters as well. 1996 was a good year, with over 10 pieces for each mintmark in 68.

    Keith
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  • andy007andy007 Posts: 475 ✭
    I agree with you Dog, too many flow lines on this coin for me. Some of the high grade slabbed Kennedy's from the mid-90's to present that I have looked at have this look. I personally prefer the ones with a more mirrored field. No way I would pay that kind of money for it regardless.
  • MonstavetMonstavet Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    I am currently trying to put together a nice Registry set of MS Kennedys. As much as I would love to have the #1 set, I will not spend $900 a coin to achieve that! That just seems like madness to me! No offense to any board member who may have bid on the coin...it just seems a little out of hand to me. But hey, I paid $20 for a penny yesterday! LOL!
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  • HoytogleHoytogle Posts: 51
    I was set to bid $850.00 for the coin. I do not think the final price was out of line. I think we forget how hard it is to make these high grade moderns. With all the 01 coins that graded so high. MS68 Kennedy coins other than 01 P are very hard to get. Even the SMS 65-67 have very low pops 65 MS68 = 16, 66 MS68 =23, 67 MS68 = 16, 76s MS68 = 38, 01p MS68 = 39, even the 96p MS68 is 11 96D MS68 is 11. These are the highest pops for the Kennedy series in MS68 I did not include the 98 SMS even the 01D is only 10 in MS68 Hoyt
  • DabigkahunaDabigkahuna Posts: 3,419
    Do you think those flow lines stand out like that because of a dip? Of course it may just be the photo. It never fails to amaze me how many things show up on a coin when you take a photo that you didn't notice before.

    Larry
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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Larry,

    Both of the MS-68's that I have from the Kennedy series have very pronounced flow lines radiating out from the center of the coin. Much more pronounced than any other denomination that I have seen in high grade so far.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Very interesting that of all the people who read and replied to this thread only 2 people commented on the COIN that is inside the $900 holder.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • BcsicanBcsican Posts: 1,068
    You can never be too picky with a slabbed MS 68, its a coin you dont want to pay MS 68 prices for a MS 67 coin!
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it, but not at $900.00 (plus fees).

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