Adolf Hitler cards....
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I recently had two cards from a German 1936 Olympic set graded by PSA. They are the only two graded to date. What is the general concensus for selling these? Is there a market?? They are pre-WWII if that makes a difference?? Is it "pc" to list them on ebay? I posted one of them on the net54 board last week and the first few responses were negative so I deleted the scan of the Hitler card and kept the scan of the Jesse Owens card (I got two of those graded also). Please let me know opinions.
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My small collection
Want List:
'61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
Cardinal T206 cards
Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
I sold some WWII Nazi stuff for a friend of mine who's father personally brought them back after WWII. I don't think that made the American solider (or me) a traitor, and my friends family really needed the money.
Such things are just another example how little tolerance many people have for any opinion or thought outside of their own.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
In fact, here's an action for an ungraded 1938 Gum Inc. R69 Horrors of War Hitler Threatens Force # 283.
/s/ JackWESQ
/s/ JackWESQ
Now, if you were a dealer who specialized in Nazi memorabilia, that'd be different.
Post a pic of the Hitler card.
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
(the owens card is beautiful btw, i'd love it)
I could see kids trading these. "I'll give you the Owens for one Hitler and a Mussolini."
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Linky to black & white card
<< <i>There's a whole bunch of Hitler items on ebay. I'd list them. If it bothers people, why are they searching his name? >>
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So that they can report them to T&S for removal.
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I have had mixed results listing the stuff. I have relisted stuff
that was removed, without it being removed again.
EBAY is out-of-control, right now.
The bots will hit the word "NAZI." But, listings with the word
may or may not be removed.
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looking for 1988 Fournier estrellas stickers , 1985 Prism Jewel stickers , anything Jesse Owens .
it funny you can sell divil worship stuff/sex stuff/bongs , but you cant sell nazi or kkk stuff cause you might offend somebody, its part of history
i just tell em to get over it ,the civil war and ww2 are over and its history
<< <i>The 1938 Gum Inc. R69 Horrors of War has three cards entitled "Hitler's Border Tour Raises War Scare", "Hitler Threatens Force" and "Chamberlain Meets Hitler." >>
I bet Wilt the Stilt dunked all over Hitler.
<< <i> hitler stole the swastica,which is a indian sign to begin with >>
So about 16 years ago I was in High School. At Taco Bell for lunch when I noticed the 2 gangsters in front of me had these homemade airbrushed shirts that had a brick wall and names of gangs crossed out. In there was a backwards swastika. Being the type of guy I am, I informed them of their error. They didn't care and and quickly became upset and wanted to go outside to "talk" about it. Well I went and "talked" with both of them until my buddy jumped in and took one. I'll never forget walking away after the fight was over (in the Drive thru) and there was an eldery lady in line and she said to me "Fighting doesn't solve anything" I replied "Now you tell me". As I spit blood. lol
+ 1 for donavan fighting with punk posers
did they get whomped?
somebody put a slabbed psa hitler on here i(n the mail call thread somewhere) from a set,it was a beuatiful card,high grade from whatever it was from,it was old
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<< <i>The 1938 Gum Inc. R69 Horrors of War has three cards entitled "Hitler's Border Tour Raises War Scare", "Hitler Threatens Force" and "Chamberlain Meets Hitler." >>
I bet Wilt the Stilt dunked all over Hitler. >>
Hahahah awesome.
Also, stamp albums with Swastikas and Hitler on them.
They are on the "EBAY exemption list." Both mint and used can be sold.
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I have had daggers and patches poofed. I have relisted them and had no problem.
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The current crop of T&S folks is very demoralized. Mostly youngsters who have
no clue about anything beyond their public-school indoctrination; you never how
they will decide ANY issue. Their bosses are mostly busy looking for new jobs.
<< <i>Put up a listing and see what happens. I don't think any intelligent person would call you a Nazi for doing so.
Now, if you were a dealer who specialized in Nazi memorabilia, that'd be different.
Post a pic of the Hitler card. >>
I agree. The man and his actions were obviously derranged, but selling historical cards depicting him isn't exactly an attempt to further the Nazi cause. It surprises me that eBay would remove any such listings.
Anyone who is trying to support Nazi causes needs to go outside and "talk" with Donovan. Hahah.
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did they get whomped?
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It was kinda funny. They said lets go outside. So I walked towards the front and they werent there. I looked inside and saw them in the drive thru so I went there. I started to take my shirt off and they both started hitting me while my shirt was over my face. Lesson learned there. lol My buddies inside the packed place didn't know I left to fight at first, so what seemed like forever I was switching my hits back and forth between them. My buddy came out the door screaming and tackled one of them. Screaming? lol yeah, he was. The guy and I both had each others shirts in our hand and took turns hitting each other in the face. Odd. Then a guy I know was a security guard in the shopping center came over with his mace. At that time I had one in a headlock and was hitting the guy that got away from my buddy. The security guard kept yelling at me to let the guy go. Saying nothing to the guy hitting me. Finally we all left and they followed us on the freeway. Wanting us to to to a local (gangster infested) park to finish it. Yeah right. As we drove they were throwing tools at us and some landing inside. I was throwing them back and my buddy a shade tree mechanic said, no keep those. lol They followed us until we were real close to a buddys house who was crazy and would of probally bit them, they took off.
Later in life I discovered my boss used to work there and was there when it happened.
A day I'll never forget.
I have had many encounters like that and my wife finally got her way with me keeping my mouth shut in public.
Collector of Pittsburgh Pirates cards for a slightly less stupid reason.
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/s/ JackWESQ
<< <i>My daughter goes to pre-school in an old building that is part of a church. There are all kinds of designs in the floor tile of the vestabule. I've noticed a bunch of swatikas in the floor designs. I just pointed it out to my wife last week. I will try to get a picture soon. >>
There's a house in town and the design in their fence has swastikas in it. It's on a busy street too.
<< <i>Well...here is the scan of the two cards. What do you think? (my dad and bro. are military nuts...they can name all the guys on the podium in the right hand card)
The one on the left would probably be left on ebay if presented ok. The one on the right would be pulled because you can see the swasticka (sp?). I tried to sell a photo of Hitler and Mussolini autographed by Mussolini and they pulled it because they said it was "hateful and discriminatory". Upon further inquiry, they pulled it because it showed the swasticka. I just airbrushed it in my scan and reposted and all went well. I did indicate to potential bidders that the scan was airbrushed to cover what to some might be a "hateful and discriminatory" symbol and ebay left it alone.
Mike
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Yup. That will solve it.
The fact that they allow my Third Reich stamps to be listed has always been a mystery to me.
1936 Reemstma cig. #119
Steve
<< <i>Well...here is the scan of the two cards. What do you think? (my dad and bro. are military nuts...they can name all the guys on the podium in the right hand card)
Is that Charlie Chaplin in that card on the right? Fourth from left in the stands behind Hitler. Chaplin a Nazi? It's a crazy world. Somebody should sell tickets.
im surprised CDNUTS (LEE)hasnt posted through that account yet....
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Is that Charlie Chaplin in that card on the right? Fourth from left in the stands behind Hitler. Chaplin a Nazi? >>
Nazi propaganda book reveals Charlie Chaplin was on Hitler's death list
27 February 2008
Charlie Chaplin: Attacked in book
As the Little Tramp, he made millions laugh.
But the Nazis never saw the funny side when it came to Charlie Chaplin.
Adolf Hitler's hatred of the politically outspoken movie star is apparent in a yellowing book of Nazi propaganda which includes Chaplin in a hit list of prominent Jews.
The fact that Chaplin was not Jewish didn't save him from being a target. The book, Juden Sehen Dich An (The Jews are Watching You), brands him a "pseudo-Jew".
He was in excellent company. Albert Einstein was among the international Jewish figures listed in 95 pages corroded with hate.
The book, which includes names and photographs of activists, bankers, economists, journalists, academics and entertainers, was written by Dr Johann von Leers, a notorious anti-Jewish propagandist.
Published in Berlin in the 1930s, it is thought to have inspired Chaplin's classic comedy The Great Dictator, in which he both directed and starred.
In the 1940 movie, Chaplin plays a Nazi-like tyrant, Adenoid Hynkel, dictator of Tomainia, clearly modelled on Hitler.
The book is to be auctioned in Shropshire next month.
Auctioneer Richard Westwood-Brookes said: "The book aims to attack leading Jews worldwide, warning the German people that these people were forming an international network aimed at world domination. Each leading Jew is featured with a photograph and a pen portrait, but by far the most remarkable and bizarre aspect of this book is the inclusion of Charlie Chaplin.
"He is attacked in a section named 'Artistic Jews', with the suggestion that he was of Jewish origin and therefore a pseudo-Jew.
"Chaplin must have feared for his life when he saw the book, because the majority of the people in this book were exterminated by the Nazis.
"These pieces of history serve as a reminder of what happened and what could have happened.
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Adolf Hitler: Chaplin mercilessly parodied him in The Great Dictator
"It's easy to look at movies, but when you have original pieces like this in your hand, it's chilling."
Film historian Kevin Brownlow said Chaplin made The Great Dictator in response to seeing himself on the book's hit list.
"The Nazis mistakenly thought he was Jewish because Chaplin never denied it," he said.
"He was sent a copy of this book and it is widely believed that this led to him to make the film The Great Dictator as an act of defiance."
Mr Brownlow said the picture of Chaplin used in the book was chosen because it was one in which he looked least like Hitler.
A film maker called Ivan Montague working in Berlin in the 1930s found a copy of the book and sent it to the actor.
"Chaplin even took the time to send a letter back to Montague, thanking him for sending the book," said Mr Brownlow.
"This shows us that Chaplin was very much aware of the book and was certainly roused by it."
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I'm surprised they still let you use the computer at the mental institution.
I didn't realize all the jews were supposed to chime in on this thread. Now that I'm aware of this, I'd like to say nice cards.
Frankly, I want people to remember this mass-murderer, evil piece of chit - those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, and I don't want a holocaust to be repeated.