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RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
In Yankee Doodle's Pocket: The Myth, Magic and Politics of Money in Early America was recently published by noted colonial coin collector, Will Nipper. It is not a typical numismatic work by any stretch. Rather than stressing die states, mintages, values, and PCGS populations, Nipper instead spins a unique narrative of US colonial history. Nipper does not use the traditional historical focal points of wars or great men (and women) to bind the story together, but instead employs the numismatic creations of the colonial era.

In what other book, ostensibly written about coins, will one learn about Oliver Cromwell usurping the throne of Charles I? Of John Bailey, who crafted the sword of George Washington (as well as the famous Doubloon)? Of French explorer Jacques Cartier and how his quest for diamonds and gold led him up the St. Lawrence River in the 1530's? (Little did he know that all he had to do was wait nearly 500 years and find Mrs Longacre's cache in nearby Connecticut image )

Contrary to the belief of my competitor, this book is not one that can be read in one sitting or even meant to be read page after page, sitting in a lounger, like a novel. The best use of this book is to pick it up and open it to a coin of interest or era of interest and start reading. Certainly one can lose one's self in the mysteries of the Albany Church penny (with or without the "D.") or deciding whether or not the 1749 British halfpenny truly is an American coin. However, if you are seeking a book to teach you how to invest in colonial coins, which ones are undervalued or overgraded, or which Ryder die state your Vermont copper is, this book is probably not for you.

Not since Sylvester Crosby's Early Coins of America in 1875 has one so ambitiously tackled the entire US colonial series and added the foreign coins circulating in the early US, colonial currency, and early Federal coins (until 1840) as added treats. It easily surpasses Breen's contributions in this area though the Breen book is extensively referenced. It will be interesting to see how Bowers' upcoming book on colonial coins (to be released by Whitman in November) compares.

In Yankee Doodle's Pocket: The Myth, Magic and Politics of Money in Early America should appeal to lovers of early US and colonial coins, early US history as it relates to coins and money, and those of broad US numismatic and historic interest. Such numismatic scholarship deserves to be rewarded with your consideration. It is in the same league as QDB favorites Adventures with Rare Coins and More Adventures with Rare Coins and belongs on the bookshelf of anyone who cares enough to have read this entire review.

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  • fcfc Posts: 12,796 ✭✭✭
    that is an excellent review! i think i have a good idea how the book
    will read and what to expect if i choose to buy it.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well that settles it...I gotta buy the book!

    I'll be buying QDB's book too. image
  • This is exactly the sort of quality posting that I've come to expect here in the chatroom -

  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭✭
    Great review, RYK!
  • Thanks for the review- you talked me into it.image
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thx for the review. This one is on the must have list.......
  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    Excellent review and writing RYK.

    Appreciated, I don't own many numismatic books but this sounds like a winner.

    -D
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

    -Aristotle

    Dum loquimur fugerit invida aetas. Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.

    -Horace
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Great review, RYK. I especially liked how you put this book into context by comparison to others.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • Wow, I had no intention of buying this book, but your review has sold me. If that doctor thing doesn't work out, you could always write book reviews. image
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I have to give credit where credit is due-- that was a great review (especially the reference to Mrs. L's jewelry collection). I look forward to reading the book at a more leisurely pace, delving into the details of the text, and generating interesting discussions for the boards (probably to the chagrin of many here).

    You should consider posting this review to the Esylum. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting. Is cognac required?
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Very interesting. Is cognac required? >>



    No. Much of the reading was done during my son's swimming practice.
  • Interesting review, but does the book have pictures?
  • Great review. Is there an online link where it could be ordered?
    Becoming informed but still trying to learn every day!
    1-Dammit Boy Oct 14,2003

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting review, but does the book have pictures? >>



    Yes, extensively illustrated with photos and drawings of both historical personalities and coins. Sorry for the omission.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Great review. Is there an online link where it could be ordered? >>




    Here is the link, and please let's not encourage RYK anymore than we should. He's making me look like a slacker. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • Thanks for the link....... I appreciate it
    Becoming informed but still trying to learn every day!
    1-Dammit Boy Oct 14,2003

    International Coins
    "A work in progress"


    Wayne
    eBay registered name:
    Hard_ Search (buyer/bidder, a small time seller)
    e-mail: wayne.whatley@gmail.com
  • Great review, Doc... image

    The American Medical Journal could use a writer like you...

    I guess I need to make room for another book in my numismatic library.
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Great review. Is there an online link where it could be ordered? >>




    Here is the link, and please let's not encourage RYK anymore than we should. He's making me look like a slacker. image >>



    I will leave the scut work (links, ordering info, etc.) for Longacre to take care of. image
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Great review. Is there an online link where it could be ordered? >>




    Here is the link, and please let's not encourage RYK anymore than we should. He's making me look like a slacker. image >>



    I will leave the scut work (links, ordering info, etc.) for Longacre to take care of. image >>




    image OK, that was a good one.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • Darn!!!!

    They will not ship to me. I am not in the USA............ thanks for the link anyway
    Becoming informed but still trying to learn every day!
    1-Dammit Boy Oct 14,2003

    International Coins
    "A work in progress"


    Wayne
    eBay registered name:
    Hard_ Search (buyer/bidder, a small time seller)
    e-mail: wayne.whatley@gmail.com
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Darn!!!!

    They will not ship to me. I am not in the USA............ thanks for the link anyway >>



    Try these guys


  • << <i>

    << <i>Darn!!!!

    They will not ship to me. I am not in the USA............ thanks for the link anyway >>



    Try these guys >>



    No overseas shipping there either even APOs, maybe try Amazon?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Darn!!!!

    They will not ship to me. I am not in the USA............ thanks for the link anyway >>



    Try these guys >>



    No overseas shipping there either even APOs, maybe try Amazon? >>



    My assistant, Longacre, will graciously handle the acquisition and shipping of the book for those who reside outside the US. Please PM him for more information. image
  • Nope RKY............. large notice at the top of their main page.....Not Currently Shipping to Overseas.

    Thanks for trying
    Becoming informed but still trying to learn every day!
    1-Dammit Boy Oct 14,2003

    International Coins
    "A work in progress"


    Wayne
    eBay registered name:
    Hard_ Search (buyer/bidder, a small time seller)
    e-mail: wayne.whatley@gmail.com
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nope RKY............. large notice at the top of their main page.....Not Currently Shipping to Overseas.

    Thanks for trying >>




    I take my administrative duties seriously. The link that I provided is to the author himself, in the good, old USA. It is not some fulfillment center in Bangalore, which will tell you how many rupees the book costs. If you are really interested in the book, you can drop the author a note and ask if he will ship it internationally, if you agree to pay the full postage. I assume he would agree to that, especially since you are dealing directly with him, rathan than some big corporate conglomerate.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic book review.
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    That was an OK appetizer.

    I can hardly wait for Longacre to post the real review!

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That was an OK appetizer.

    I can hardly wait for Longacre to post the real review! >>


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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That was an OK appetizer.

    I can hardly wait for Longacre to post the real review! >>




    image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • First, thank you, RYK and others for your VERY kind words. This is my first post to this forum and I honestly have no idea who is behind the nicknames, but do sincerely appreciate what you’ve written. A friend saw the earlier posts and sent me the link to them. Thanks, Dan.

    A few comments that may help to clear up any confusion:

    The fact that only the US and Canada appear on our website is tied to a handful of non-coin images that I licensed for use in the book. It costs much less to secure the rights to use them in publications marketed in North America than to secure rights for full international distribution. Bowmanstone Press simply is a company that I set up for tax purposes and to market the book. It (and the website) are basically one-man operations, with some help from my wife and kids. So, we don't really have any hard and fast corporate policies, especially none that intentionally make it difficult for our friends living outside the U.S.. We just can’t afford to violate any copyright laws/agreements. Moreover, the shopping cart provider that we use tends to greatly overestimate shipping charges for non-US addresses. So, if you do live outside the US and are interested in the book, please email me privately at books@bowmanstonepress.com.

    A few dealers have bought books wholesale and I encourage you to buy from them if it saves you money. I don’t really have much control, other than their purchase costs, over how much they charge. You won’t find it on Amazon just yet – mainly because I haven’t found the time to sign up with them. If there is interest, I can set up a discount code on our website for members of this forum.

    As for the book itself, it began in 1997 as a compilation of notes for my four daughters, only one of whom has an interest in numismatics. The idea was to leave them with an understanding of why dad spent so much time thinking about coins. I’m sure that it contains many technical flaws and it isn’t the scholarly work to which you are accustomed. The whole intent was to publish something that is fun, a bit quirky and opinionated and maybe even a little provocative. Like many of you, I started collecting at a very young age. I have line drawings of early American coins that I did at age 5. Couldn’t afford them then and certainly can’t afford many of them now. So, referring to me as a “noted” collector is indeed generous. But, I hope to kindle the same interest in history with my kids – if and when they finally decide to read the book.

    Lastly, it’s flattering be mentioned in the same sentence with QDB, but I would never presume to play in that league. Like many of you, I absolutely can’t wait to buy two copies of his upcoming book on early American coins – one to keep and one to cover with a zillion notes. As has been noted, if you buy mine thinking it will be in some sense comparable, you’ll be disappointed. It’s a completely different species.

    With many thanks and kind regards,
    Will Nipper

    A little folly now and then is relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will,

    Thanks for stopping by and clarifying these points for us. Longacre will be even more disappointed that his review was so tardy. image
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Will,

    Thanks for stopping by and clarifying these points for us. Longacre will be even more disappointed that his review was so tardy. image >>




    I write literally thousands of threads about my beloved QDB, and he does not join the boards. RYK writes one book review, and the author comes out of the woodwork. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I write literally thousands of threads about my beloved QDB, and he does not join the boards. RYK writes one book review, and the author comes out of the woodwork. image >>


    image

    And to Will Nipper I say bravo! image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Will,

    Thanks for stopping by and clarifying these points for us. Longacre will be even more disappointed that his review was so tardy. image >>




    I write literally thousands of threads about my beloved QDB, and he does not join the boards. RYK writes one book review, and the author comes out of the woodwork. image >>



    One review? Pssshhh!

    If you recall, I was also the first to review Coinosaurus' book and have numerous other book reviews (not to mention show reviews) to my credit.

    And how do you know that QDB does not post on the forum? image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Longacre has been relatively quiet on the forum for the last several days. I wonder if he is working on his belated review. image
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should we have a poll to decide the official Forum book reviewer?

    Of course, we would need a little bit more information about the candidates:

    * Are they pro-reviewers or choice-reviewers?
    * What is their position on deficit reviewing?
    * How do they feel about unprovoked, international reviewing?
    * And what about universal reviewing coverage for all?

    Longacre is probably busy putting his position papers in order image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Should we have a poll to decide the official Forum book reviewer?

    Of course, we would need a little bit more information about the candidates:

    * Are they pro-reviewers or choice-reviewers?
    * What is their position on deficit reviewing?
    * How do they feel about unprovoked, international reviewing?
    * And what about universal reviewing coverage for all?

    Longacre is probably busy putting his position papers in order image >>


    I would gladly sit down with you and discuss these issues without preconditions. image
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Should we have a poll to decide the official Forum book reviewer?

    Of course, we would need a little bit more information about the candidates:

    * Are they pro-reviewers or choice-reviewers?
    * What is their position on deficit reviewing?
    * How do they feel about unprovoked, international reviewing?
    * And what about universal reviewing coverage for all?

    Longacre is probably busy putting his position papers in order image >>




    My PR firm is putting together a response. In the meantime, some Longacre splinter groups are putting the finishing touches on attack ads. image If you have not guessed, I am pro choice-reviewer, anti-deficit reviewer, anti-unprovoked reviewer (Longacre is a lover, not a fighter image ), and pro-universal reviewing. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭
    What I'd like to know from each of you is "Would your reviews spread the knowledge around or create new knowledge?"
    If you can't swim you better stay in the boat.......
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In Yankee Doodle's Pocket: The Myth, Magic and Politics of Money in Early America

    I just got the book for Christmas! image
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I ordered a copy of the book after someone reviewed it on the Coin Talk board, and it's a great read. Will Nipper has done a superb job of distilling a wealth of monetary/military/social/political history into this volume, it's a nice example of what I like to call "thick" history. His writing isn't stilted at all. The book itself is large, well printed, with excellent illustrations. My only quibble at present (have read about 1/3) are scattered typos, usually repeated words. Nice work, Will. Enjoyed your review, RYK.
  • I just received the book this morning and finally put it down. An easy read unlike most numis. texts.

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