Card pricing after player reaches HOF - ROGER CLEMENS

ROCKETMAN

Hi all! Looking for forum advice/info concerning the pricing of Roger Clemens cards after he reaches the HOF. I have a huge collection of the Rocket which I will be selling. Many collectors/sellers will say "when he reaches the HOF, his cards will skyrocket". I don't recall that being a factor with many recent HOF'ers??? I don't believe prices really increase that much? With the Rockets popularity demise, I have a feeling this won't happen. Just that I'd throw this out there for discussion which I'm sure will help me decide when to sell this grea collection of one of the greates pitchers ever! Thanks!!!!! Rich Rocketman7_8@msn.com

Leiascards

Better question is WILL HE REACH THE HOF?? He is no better than Bonds or any of the other tainted players.

lawnmowerman

<< <i> I don't believe prices really increase that much? With the Rockets popularity demise, I have a feeling this won't happen. >>



Exactly! You're pretty much screwed....lol

I am too so don't feel bad. I bought a BGS 9.5 84 Fleer Update card about 3 years ago for $1,100. I would be lucky to $200 now

MeteoriteGuy

Clemens will continue to drop in popularity and may not make the HOF. Yes, he has the stats and accomplishments....but so does McGwire and look at his lack of voting numbers the last two years. If looking for the most money, sell now....at likely 1/5th what you paid.

goose3

he might make it once it's up to the Veteran's committee......

mccardguy1

<< <i>Clemens will continue to drop in popularity and may not make the HOF. Yes, he has the stats and accomplishments....but so does McGwire and look at his lack of voting numbers the last two years. If looking for the most money, sell now....at likely 1/5th what you paid. >>



I dont know... I think he will make the hall but not on the 1st 3-4 ballots. Comparing him to McGwire is probably not the best example in my opinion because although McGwire was an adequate fielder he was more or less a one trick pony. Blast a home run or create wind with his bat. Clemons was a dominant pitcher even before he started "allegedly" messing around with the juice and I think for this reason he will be a hall of famer. The time to sell Clemons as years ago. (I know .....thank you captain obvious!!)

Now the question is do I feel the same way about Bonds?? Probably not. Bonds was a turd to the media, the fans and his own teammates from the very start. He has ticked off so many people I think most media members will take great delight in getting back at Bonds for the garbage he threw their way for a number of years. If he has a chance it is with the veterans committee but there again, its players he has po'ed over the years so the possibilities are also limited there too.

MeteoriteGuy

I think they are very comparable. Especially, on the subject at hand....pricing.

"Clemons was a dominant pitcher even before he started "allegedly" messing around with the juice and I think for this reason he will be a hall of famer."

and McGwire was a dominant hitter even before he started "allegedly" messing around with the juice.

diamondman

I think that any HOF'ers once they retire or get close to the Hall that there value starts to fall , just look at Ryan, Seaver, Rose, Bench,
Fisk, / any player, the hype drives the price up before they retire and once they retire (out of sight out of mind) the price usually drops at a guess 25 to 40% and then settles into a real price. Then there is the factor of what happened to Rose,Bonds, Clemens, /add any players name that either held on to long or got into some legal confrontation. Sell high buy low! JMHO

With Clemens if you are young hold onto them for another 20 to 30 years if not dump them now.

DeutscherGeist

There is not so much of a price bump once a player reaches the HOF if that player was believed by the public to be elected anyway. Its a player like Don Mattingly, if he gets in somehow, that will surely create a frenzy on Ebay the moment he is elected because most people don't see him getting in by way of the baseball writers....more people will believe by way of veterans committee.

Right now, Clemens' status is in limbo. His prices are dropping, so its a great time to buy. It is possible that in several years he could get elected and then the prices will once again reach a normal level or a bit higher.

The BWAA have a wait and see attitude about Clemens. They want to see how things unfold. They do say that he was already a HOF pitcher even before the steroid saga and they take that into account.

With Mark McGwire, I hear this alot, that he was a one dimensional player. I understand what they mean, but I disagree. He was an excellent fielder. It was not his fault he had to compete with Don Mattingly who may very well have been the best AL fielding first baseman of all time. McGwire also had a high On-Base-Percentage, which is more important than batting average. Sure he struck out a lot, but he did make it on base a whole lot too. I have to check his OPS, but that would be a better indicater of the quality hitter he was overall. Most of the time, teams will have a big bopper that can hit the ball out of the park, but cannot field to save his life so they plant him at first base. McGwire was not a defensive liability and was someone that can actually play the position.

DeutscherGeist

I want to buy a 1984 update rookie in psa 9/10. I just think now is the best time. It would be mainly for nostalgia reasons. Right now, they are selling for $200 easy, maybe higher for a psa 10. I am not sure if prices can sink even more or not, but most of the sinking has to be over by now.

Look at it this way. People still buy Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden rookies. They may not be as expensive as they use to be, but they are not dirt cheap either. I think their best cards are $25 and $50 respectively in psa 9.

Estil

Typically how it works is that the player's card values peak right before the big event. After the event has died down they will dip some. Ripken in 1995 is the classic example; right before he broke the streak record, his cards were booking for even MORE than Thomas/Griffey (by far the kings of the 1990s in card collecting), but after the streak they dipped down somewhat to right below Griffey/Thomas.

It works basically like clockwork. The time to sell is right BEFORE an anticipated big event.

WinPitcher

I think anyone that wants a Rocket card already has one.


Steve

DES1984

I want one and don't have one....not a 84 fleer anyway.