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Russian Medal IDs - Catherine II?

Gentleman stopped me at a side-job and asked if I knew what these were. Told him no, but I'd post them here. These were his fathers, purchased in 1984. Any further ID, value, etc would help - I'll pass the link on to the family.

1st one is about 2 3/4 inches, the tag just says "Catherine II Russia Consternation?" - $350
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2nd one is about 2" with a tag saying Catherine II Russia - $150
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Thanks,
Jeff
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"You Suck Award" - February, 2015

Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101

Comments

  • Both are medals of Catherine II as you say.

    Don't know about values, bu as a general rule for medals, white metal is cheapest, then bronze, then silver, then gold.

    I think the "Consternation" medal is really a "Coronation" medal for 1762. It looks like it has had a hard life.

    Not sure about the second medal. It has a naval/military theme, so is possibly related to one of Russia's wars (maybe with Turkey)?
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you post close-ups of the engraver initials, I might be able to dig-up some more information.

    First one is a coronation medal, as Moneta mentioned. Inscription on the obverse: Catherine II, Emperor and Sole Ruler of All Russia. Reverse: Top: For Rescuing of Faith and Country; Bottom: Coronated in Moscow, Sept. 22 1762

    Second one seems to commemorate the end of the Russo-Turkish War in 1774. The top says "By Hardness (determination?), Willpower and Force" (very fitting slogan for Russia, even to this day, don't you think?), Bottom: "Truce with Ottoman <can't figure out the last part of the first line> Signed 10 July 1774"

  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you post close-ups of the engraver initials, I might be able to dig-up some more information.
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    I was taking pictures of furniture items when he popped in, and didn't have my coin set-up/macro stuff with me, so best I can do. Hope this is what you were asking about:

    1762:
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    1774:
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    Thanks!
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    "You Suck Award" - February, 2015

    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • Both medals are by Georg Christian Waechter, German medallist, active in Russia circa 1771-89.
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