Hairlines vs. slider marks

pnylvr

Can someone explain whether all coins that have evidence of cleaning are bb'd. I had a barber quarter that looked cleaned to me but when submitted came back vf35. Now I am thinking of submitting a 1920-S Walking Liberty Half and have the same concerns with very slight random hairlines thru out the coins surfaces.

guitarwes

I believe circ. coins are allowed a few hairlines every now and again.

Unless your Walker has been polished (which I don't think it has been), I don't see why it wouldn't grade, unless the pics are hiding some heavy hairlines.

-wes

Cladiator

<< <i>whether all coins that have evidence of cleaning are bb'd. >>

Definitively and unequivocally no.

nicetoning42107

Not all coins that show evidence of cleaning are bb'd by PCGS. They even admit, somewhere in their grading standards or maybe where they explain bodybags, that they may grade coins that have been cleaned if it's a light cleaning or it's a key date.

Tough to tell from the picture whether your 20-S would grade. It's worth at least 1 shot.

19Lyds

Random hairlines can indicate circulation. Hairlines that are uniform are a different story as they indicate a harsh abrasive cleaning.

So, its up to you to dtermine if these hairlines appear random from casual circulation or do they actually indicate a cleaning. The differences should be readily identifiable.

sinin1

most au-55 and au-58 have a scattering of hairlines across the fields
( as well as many lower grade UNCs (60-62))

slider marks are different in that they are only on the highest points and are all parallel
( they are the result of the hard plastic scraping over the coin cause by some coin books)

CarlWohlforth

<<Random hairlines can indicate circulation. Hairlines that are uniform are a different story as they indicate a harsh abrasive cleaning.>>

Yup, I agree.

<<slider marks are different in that they are only on the highest points and are all parallel
( they are the result of the hard plastic scraping over the coin cause by some coin books)>>

Very true. Sad though... I saw some old proof Barbers that would have graded gem+ but for the slid marks, still it was a super nice, matched, attractive set.