72-D Peg Leg Ike ????

Boothill40

Found this while looking over coins I have had stored for some time, It's a 1972-D Ike in a PCGS MS64 holder with what looks like a Peg Leg.

Gandyjai

Yes Sir!....That is a NICE one!
Definite DIVA (Designated Ike Variety) material!

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Brian

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bronze6827

There's a little twist behind that specific variety as well. I'd be happy to elaborate, but Gandyjai and Moderdollarnut are better deserved to give you the detailed play by play from some detective work last winter. Post a reply on the Ike Group forum and perhaps you'll get a good story.

Boothill40

Thanks, looks like I'll be spending some time on the Ike group site --------Tom

sumdunce

Very nice peg leg you got there.

Grats on the find!



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19Lyds

Nice pegger and a good example of what can happen if a working die gets made from two different hubs after the annealing process.



The leg of that R appears to be one style of R etched over another style.

If you recall, 1972 started out with an R with serifs just like the 1971 P, D, and S coin R's. But there was also the Straight PeglLeg R that appeared on the 1972-S BS and 1972-S Proof coins.



If a straight pegleg were overlayed on a regular serifed R which then received die abrading and polishing due to a die clash, I think it would look similar to what you have.

Of course, I could be all wet too................

Whitby

<< <i>Nice pegger and a good example of what can happen if a working die gets made from two different hubs after the annealing process.



The leg of that R appears to be one style of R etched over another style.

If you recall, 1972 started out with an R with serifs just like the 1971 P, D, and S coin R's. But there was also the Straight PeglLeg R that appeared on the 1972-S BS and 1972-S Proof coins.



If a straight pegleg were overlayed on a regular serifed R which then received die abrading and polishing due to a die clash, I think it would look similar to what you have.

Of course, I could be all wet too................ >>



So are the 71 Silver Proofs and Uncs peg legs or not?

I am very curious about that

19Lyds

Some 1971-S Proofs are Die Design Peglegs. After several repairs, they are also Fading Peglegs so yes, they are PegLegs. How they came to be is the $64 question though.

The 1971-S BS coins have three different pegleg varieties and how they came about is another $64 question.

The Regular Serifed Design.
The Straight Pegleg Design.
The Fading PegLeg Design.

The straight pegleg comes in two distinct varieties. The Die Design variety and the Die abraded variety. To tell the difference between the two, look for the die abraded halo around the top of IKEs head as illustrated with the 1974-D Pegleg below:



The halo is the biggest indicator of a "die state" pegleg. The lack of a halo, says its a die design pegleg.

I'll refer you to this article published by the IKE Group in the Numismatist for specific information.

And yes, it all gets very confusing so your best bet is to hit the forums on www.ikegroup.org and ask the experts these questions.

ModernDollarNut

Hi, all,

The Ike Group's web site has the story on all the Ike peg legs, with lots of pictures, but I realize now that the article we wrote for CONECA's ErrorScope (May/June 2008) on the 72 circulation Ikes is not up, have to correct that omission.

IMHO your 72-D is not a peg leg and Lee is on the right track. Close but no cigar!

Get this: ALL the circulation 72 Ikes have a "peg on Serif-R" configuration on the left leg of the R of LIBERTY. The image can be remarkably strong as it is in your R. It tends to wash out a bit in die states later than MDS and with MDD, but it is present on every single 1972 CuNi-clad Ike. The ErrorScope article goes on for many pages dealing with this image and concludes that it is a product of "promoted compound-doubling of the 72 obverse master die".

For practical purposes, the 72 Ikes with sufficient abrading to remove the underlying serifs results in some of the sharpest die-abrasion peg legs in the Series because what you have left is the peg leg.

WHITBY, if you are curious, go to our website (in my sig) and you will have all the information you could possibly want. In a nutshell:
1. the first 1.3 M 71-S Ike proofs were Design Peg Legs. Then the Mint took a couple of months off to deal with the fade that occured in these peg legs and in March 1972 (!) minted 3M Serif-R 71-S Ike Proofs;
2. the common 71-S Blue Pack Ike has a heavy Serif-R design;
3. In March 72 (!) the Mint issued 200K 71-S Blue Pack Ikes in two obverse design Peg Leg varieties, a "Straight Peg Leg" and a "Fading Peg Leg", probably Gasparro's way of laying a smoke screen over the fade in his "perfect" 71-S Ike Proofs ($10 each, a stiff price back then);
4. The 72 Ike Proofs and Blue Packs carry a new Peg Leg design with the legs of the R much sturdier and thus less prone to fade (the circulation 72 Ikes continued the heavy Serif-R of the 71 circulation Ikes EXCEPT the Promoted Compound-Doubled Master Die created a peg on serif-R appearance). Rob

19Lyds

Thanks Rob!

Gandyjai

What Rob says here is KEY to ALL 72-D Ike Dollars!

<<Get this: ALL the circulation 72 Ikes have a "peg on Serif-R" configuration on the left leg of the R of LIBERTY. The image can be remarkably strong as it is in your R. It tends to wash out a bit in die states later than MDS and with MDD, but it is present on every single 1972 CuNi-clad Ike. >>

There is no such animal as a separate 72-D "Peg Leg Over Serif R" variety...It all depends on the die state of any 72-D die.

Another interesting feature is a double what we call "ice skate cleat", on the end of the right-hand leg of the same R.

Happy Hunting!
Brian

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ModernDollarNut

Here is a link to several pictures of 72-D Ikes with different degrees of abrasion. The take home is 72-D peg legs can be a tough call.

Rob

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