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TTT for the sober crowd!!!! GUESS the grade on the $5 Indian!

PCGS.....a tough date...1908-D


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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    HEY!!

    Wake up, Slugs.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
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    I am actually very tired, so let me sleep.

    These coins are ungradable. 63. I doubt you could touch a lower quality coin without losing it.


    Is that what they call "green" gold? Looks green!

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    I grade your portrait MS64.image

    You look tired!
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Homestead needs a little work. It seems like there is no end.

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    And I promise to stop hijacking your threads someday.

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    You will die in your sleep tonight....
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  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭✭
    I grade your coin about a F12 image
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Maybe so, but only if I eat this whole apple pie in one sitting.

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    I'm sorry I called your coin a 63. Will you call of the hitmen now?

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I grade your coin about a F12 image >>



    ON THE BUTTON......have some more shrooms.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Mushrooms have a bad rap.

    Have you no morels?

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    You want it to be painful? image
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Bring it on, baby!

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    That's a 20 minute time-out, Sluggo.
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  • Take your pick.

    vf 40 45 50 53 55 58 60 61 62 63 64 65
    8511 1908-D $5 MS 2 4 10 8 6 36 65 66 259 851 1,155 313 9



    I say 65.

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll play............AU-58.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64 and that's due to the eye appeal.
    The hit over the eye brow and along the jowl, plus that darkening on the reverse shoulder feather probably detracts just a little. The color is awesome.

    If I'm wrong, send me the coin so I can see in hand what I've missed in the photos. image
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Just don't guess wrong. The penalty appears to be either 20 minutes in a corner and a painful death.

  • AU58 could go 61
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    I'm not liking you. image
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    My question about 'green' gold was an honest one. I am curious. I've seen lots of coins described as 'green gold' but never really saw it clearly. Colors are relative of course.

    Some regions in the field looks 'greenish' compared with other more reddish regions.

    Is this just a photographic illusion, or is this one of those coins that is considered 'green gold'?

    Honestly, I would have thought the hit on the cheek and the scratch near the L on the reverse would be a limiting factor. This is why I fear grading this series. Time and time again, I am proven wrong on these.



    Eh. Maybe it doesn't matter. Guido the killer pimp is apparently coming for me.

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    SG, how about MS-66? So hard to grade these... it's either that or 67. I guess 66.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Oh poop. You just posted the grade as I guessed.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fat chance at getting it "in hand" , eh ? image
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Non of these slugs wanna learn ,,,, I'm gonna go MS 62
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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Read whole thread, missed dat one! CAC HUH?
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  • G6 or better
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard to know what it should really grade until after you dip it. Please be sure to post the "after" picture.




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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    deleted....no drunks to remember this anyway. image
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This coin is very clean with barely any surface abrasions and a very strong stroke.

    In the PCGS grading room, a strong stroke is always good for an extra point.
    Andy Lustig

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess "tough date" should have been the giveaway. It's a very common
    date below MS65. I wouldn't have guessed that high based on the chatter
    on the face, but the strike and color are to die for. Nice looking coin!

  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    You're funny, Jay. Those buggers are hard enough to grade in hand. Impossible by internet images. Looks REALLY nice though!

    edited to add>> I see you posted the grade and a sweet one at that! Congrats on acquiring a fantastic specimen.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This coin is very clean with barely any surface abrasions and a very strong stroke.

    In the PCGS grading room, a strong stroke is always good for an extra point. >>



    Hey butterhead...I was posting from my iPhone. It's hard to hit those teeny keys. image
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Jay
    I wish I wouldn't use the backspace after typing my respones (I would have 50,000 posts by now) What I initially said here yesterday was :

    "Knowing You: MS 66
    Knowing Indians: MS 64
    Knowing PCGS: MS 63"

    .... seriously, MS 65 never entered my head,
    In retrospect, I'll just look at the price guide next time you do such a post, and guess the grade from that angle. image They're my favorite of all U.S. Coins. These nickel sized orbs back in the days they were used as money bring me the most imaginative ponderings of a better time in our country. Them Roaring 20's. And yet, these $5 Indians were only minted from 1908 to 1916. The fact that they were not struck again with the exception of 1 year (1929) is even more intriquing. Plus, this makes the series a short one and not impossible to assemble. (1909 O and 1929 being formidable tasks) .
    Thank you for sharing !

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,700 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    2sides....thanks.

    One thing I'd point out. Yes, the series can be completed, but try to do one in MS65!!!!

    Onlt 1% of all coins graded are MS65 or better...1%!!!
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55

    Nice coin...
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    AU55?

    If you want to p!$$ Jay off, you don't have to guess that low. Saying MS63 is enough to get a murderous threat.

    This is my pathetic PCGS AU55 indian. Taken in not terribly good lighting. Population (who cares/lots more where they came from).

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    Notice that there appears to be no trace of the original surface left. But most of the incuse areas still look very nice. One reason I like these coins is that the 'worn' ones don't look a whole lot different from the 'unworn' ones. That is also one reason I hate the series, as it makes them tough to grade.

    Jay:
    Oh, by the way, your hitmen did not work out. I'll mail them back to you in a box as long as you pay for my postage and time. You have until monday, then they go in the garbage.

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    It's a PCGS MS65 CAC. Pop9/0.

    CAC...after I bought it! These are very hard to grade, even in hand. But I assure you this is a superb coin. It IS very colorful. The green in gold is often caused by minute silver impurities, most commonly found in Southern gold because it contains more silver. Western gold has a higher copper content so they tend to be more pinkish This coin is very clean with barely any surface abrasions and a very strong strike. 1908-d's also tend to have weak mintmarks but this one is clearly a sharp one. Probably only 5-6 of the 65's are "true" GEM65's.

    It's a keeper, for sure.
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS62...
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Uhhhhh. No.

    You don't read the post direcly above yours, do you? image
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭
    Wow, I was way off. Glad I didn't guess a while ago!

    Very nice coin, as well. Me want.
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  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    graffiti on the reverse at 1:00. Should be bodybaged . I'll buy it for $750 image

    Just kidding, ms65 is good
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A deserving grade ,it's a beauty.
    Al
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭


    << <i>graffiti on the reverse at 1:00. Should be bodybaged . I'll buy it for $750 image

    Just kidding, ms65 is good >>



    Ya know your avatar was mine when I first posted here! That's a pic of my 1st HR, an MS63! image
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I know you already revealed the grade, but I agree that this is certainly a MS-65.

    Congrats on another nice addition your Lil Ingine's
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Stone but I have to break it to you hard.

    I sold the 1913 to own this one. It's 5 times the coin as far as rarity and only 1.5 times the price! can'y have everything these days of Alpo-loaf and rainwater. image
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