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LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
I go to a few coin shows a year, and nothing is more frustrating that trying to speak with a dealer at his table during a show, and not being able because he is too busy. Also, it is just as frustrating when you have literally seconds to speak to the dealer because there is a line of people behind you who want to talk with him too, and you don’t want to be rude with taking up too much time.

As far as I know, all dealers eat breakfast and/or lunch. I think a successful coin show is one that somehow increases contact between dealers and collectors in an efficient manner.

At a recent international tax conference that I attended, at lunch (and this can apply to breakfast), half of the tables were designated as “country tables”, and were marked as such by a little flag of the country in question on the table. For example, if you had some burning desire to talk about Australian tax, you simply sat at the Australian tax table, and there were others there with similar issues, and you can have a roundtable discussion of your issues, what others are seeing in the market, latest trends, etc., etc.

Can this concept be applied to the coin show context? For example, let’s say that a very popular dealer, such as Julian, agreed to sit at the “Julian” table at breakfast (so designated). That would allow 10 or 12 collectors who want to spend time with Julian to sit at that table and speak in a comfortable atmosphere. It seems like an effective way for a dealer to meet a lot of collectors at once. There can also be a CCU table, a Doug Winter table, a Pistareen table, etc.

Do you think this concept would work?
Always took candy from strangers
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    No, it's too hard to talk with your mouth full....image
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure that mandatory breakfast appearances would encourage more dealers to attend a show - they already have a quite a full plate, so to speak.
  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    I never eat breakfast.

    Ray
  • I guess you would need to add an "Unwashed Masses" table, as well... for the "lower class" collectors and dealers... image


    Hey, I'm always onboard for a free breakfast...and I am always ready to talk coins...where are we eatin? image
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dislike business lunches as it is... don't mess with my hobby. Cheers, RickO
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭✭
    I think many people would pay extra NOT to have to eat breakfast with coin dealers.
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Yep, seen concepts like this work quite well for some folks. But only in venues with strict timetables where a two hour block is reserved for breakfast. Or where a one and a half hour block is reserved for lunch. This does not describe any coin show i've seen.

    Provide a free buffet style breakfast or lunch. Provide an array of tables with some sort of focus. The categories do not necessarily have to be individual dealers. One wants to strike a sweet spot between getting enough interest on any particular table so that good information is shared and not overloading any one table.

    However, I do not think it will address your frustration. The situation will still mutate into you attempting to get a word in edgeways and the busy dealer will still be too busy with stuff to talk with you the way you want.

    A Doug Winter table? That one will be busy.

  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    guess who is having a breakfest seminar at coinfest?

    Laura!

    Sunday 8:00 a.m. - Special Guest Speaker Laura Sperber of Legend Numismatics - please join of of the best dealers in the country for a FREE yummy Breakfast and a very special Breakroom Type Seminar on COIN BUSINESS Q & A - WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW! You can ask Laura what its like to handle the 1913 Nickel twice or just some free advice! This is one seminar not to miss!
  • Went to Sea World a few months back and had breakfast with Elmo.image
  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    Wait, you want me to get up even earlier?

    Tell you what, bring me a cup of coffee and I'll save you a seat at my table.

    Bring me a scotch and I'll save you two seats!
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yum!

    Coins and bacon. image

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    To efficiently increase dealers’ business with collectors, should show promoters start “breakfast with the dealers”?

    I don't know about eating breakfast with dealers, but I do know that Longacre should stop splitting infinitives.! image

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have had plenty of casual dinners with dealers, and they have been most fun, informative, and effective for relationship building.

    Edit: No split infinitives here!
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are you contemplating a Continental Breakfast?

    Perhaps Bagels, coffee and some type of juice?

    I see possibilities as long as collectors and dealers can mingle... the sit down breakfast with eggs and bacon and all that really defeats the purpose. It should be about coins more than food.

    I think it could work... something that even PCGS and/or NGC could do... 45 minutes

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To efficiently increase dealers’ business with collectors, should show promoters start “breakfast with the dealers”?

    I don't know about eating breakfast with dealers, but I do know that Longacre should stop splitting infinitives.! image >>




    I have no clue what a split infinitive is, Mr. St. Martin. image

    Now I have to look it up!
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    I thought most dealers ate meals over their cases, the remnants of which often remain there for quite a while.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>To efficiently increase dealers� business with collectors, should show promoters start �breakfast with the dealers�?

    I don't know about eating breakfast with dealers, but I do know that Longacre should stop splitting infinitives.! image >>




    I have no clue what a split infinitive is, Mr. St. Martin. image

    Now I have to look it up! >>


    I'll help:

    A split infinitive or cleft infinitive is an English-language grammatical construction in which a word or phrase, usually an adverb or other adverbial, comes between the marker to and the bare infinitive (uninflected) form of a verb. A famous split infinitive occurs in the opening sequence of the Star Trek television series: to boldly go where no man has gone before. Here, the adverb "boldly" splits the full infinitive "to go." More rarely, the term compound split infinitive is used to describe situations in which the infinitive is split by more than one word: The population is expected to more than double in the next ten years.
  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭
    I think after dealing with buyers, sellers other dealers and people just picking your brain all day a person would like some down time and just enjoy their meal... recharge the batteries so to speak
    If you can't swim you better stay in the boat.......
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>To efficiently increase dealers� business with collectors, should show promoters start �breakfast with the dealers�?

    I don't know about eating breakfast with dealers, but I do know that Longacre should stop splitting infinitives.! image >>




    I have no clue what a split infinitive is, Mr. St. Martin. image

    Now I have to look it up! >>


    I'll help:

    A split infinitive or cleft infinitive is an English-language grammatical construction in which a word or phrase, usually an adverb or other adverbial, comes between the marker to and the bare infinitive (uninflected) form of a verb. A famous split infinitive occurs in the opening sequence of the Star Trek television series: to boldly go where no man has gone before. Here, the adverb "boldly" splits the full infinitive "to go." More rarely, the term compound split infinitive is used to describe situations in which the infinitive is split by more than one word: The population is expected to more than double in the next ten years. >>




    I was still clueless until that Star Trek example. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>To efficiently increase dealers� business with collectors, should show promoters start �breakfast with the dealers�?

    I don't know about eating breakfast with dealers, but I do know that Longacre should stop splitting infinitives.! image >>




    I have no clue what a split infinitive is, Mr. St. Martin. image

    Now I have to look it up! >>


    I'll help:

    A split infinitive or cleft infinitive is an English-language grammatical construction in which a word or phrase, usually an adverb or other adverbial, comes between the marker to and the bare infinitive (uninflected) form of a verb. A famous split infinitive occurs in the opening sequence of the Star Trek television series: to boldly go where no man has gone before. Here, the adverb "boldly" splits the full infinitive "to go." More rarely, the term compound split infinitive is used to describe situations in which the infinitive is split by more than one word: The population is expected to more than double in the next ten years. >>




    I was still clueless until that Star Trek example. image >>



    To excessively hype...

    To brazenly predict...

    To unabashedly correct...

    I did not know that the split infinitive was a faux pas until DaveG had the nerve to unashamedly point it out. image
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive.
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Great!

    Next you'll be using "it's" as if it were a possessive!


    oy!

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975


    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity or awkwardness. There's no way to fix this example of a split infinitive without creating other problems: "He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected." Try it!

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity. There's no way to fix this split infinitive without creating other problems:

    He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected. >>



    This is turning into the Grammar Girl forum.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity. There's no way to fix this split infinitive without creating other problems:

    He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected. >>



    This is turning into the Grammar Girl forum. >>


    I'm still trying to figure out the meaning of your first post to this thread. image
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity or awkwardness. There's no way to fix this example of a split infinitive without creating other problems: "He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected." Try it! >>



    Not a bad point, although:

    "He decided to get rid of, gradually, the mistakes, dupes, and widgets he had collected"

    is not too heinous, I think.

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity or awkwardness. There's no way to fix this example of a split infinitive without creating other problems: "He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected." Try it! >>



    Not a bad point, although:

    "He decided to get rid of, gradually, the mistakes, dupes, and widgets he had collected"

    is not too heinous, I think. >>



    Now you've stranded the preposition! image
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    This thread has confused me. It's time to drink.

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    Darn twist-offs.
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity or awkwardness. There's no way to fix this example of a split infinitive without creating other problems: "He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected." Try it! >>



    Not a bad point, although:

    "He decided to get rid of, gradually, the mistakes, dupes, and widgets he had collected"

    is not too heinous, I think. >>



    Now you've stranded the preposition! image >>



    "He decided to get rid, gradually, of the mistakes, dupes, and widgets he had collected."

    Yep, pretty awkward. Sometimes you just gotta break the rules..........



  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I think the split infinitive is an effective tool for making writing more expressive. >>


    And they're also necessary sometimes to avoid ambiguity or awkwardness. There's no way to fix this example of a split infinitive without creating other problems: "He decided to gradually get rid of the mistakes, duplicates, and widgets he had collected." Try it! >>



    Not a bad point, although:

    "He decided to get rid of, gradually, the mistakes, dupes, and widgets he had collected"

    is not too heinous, I think. >>



    Now you've stranded the preposition! image >>



    "He decided to get rid, gradually, of the mistakes, dupes, and widgets he had collected."

    Yep, pretty awkward. Sometimes you just gotta break the rules.......... >>



    "He decided to rid himself, gradually, of the mistakes, dupes, and widgets that he had collected."
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd certainly attend "Meet the Collector" breakfasts if I had a burning interest in grammar.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Oh, make up your minds, you silly people!

    Did he decide over a period of time (i.e., gradually) or is he going to get rid of them over a period of time (i.e., gradually)?

    IGWT - just get rid of "gradually" and your sentence will be fine.

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • StellaStella Posts: 723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I often have dinner with other dealers, but I avoid "Breakfast With the Dealers" so that I don't encounter the Unwashed Masses. image
    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • StellaStella Posts: 723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is turning into the Grammar Girl forum. >>



    If you need an official Grammar Girl, I can volunteer! I am an AP English student this year. Therefore, I have a certain degree of knowledge of the English language and its myriad rules. Please keep in mind, however, that not even the Grammar Girl is perfect. image
    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This is turning into the Grammar Girl forum. >>



    If you need an official Grammar Girl, I can volunteer! I am an AP English student this year. Therefore, I have a certain degree of knowledge of the English language and its myriad rules. Please keep in mind, however, that not even the Grammar Girl is perfect. image >>



    Sarah, I often forget that you are a high school student--take that as a compliment. image
  • StellaStella Posts: 723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sarah, I often forget that you are a high school student--take that as a compliment. image >>



    Thanks, RYK. Sometimes, I don't even remember that myself. image
    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wait, you want me to get up even earlier?

    Tell you what, bring me a cup of coffee and I'll save you a seat at my table.

    Bring me a scotch and I'll save you two seats! >>


    Scotch for breakfast? As Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade would say, Hooah! image
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Breakfast? Heck, I'd be happy with their autograph and picture(with their sunglasses on) so I could prove I met them in person.
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"He decided to rid himself, gradually, of the mistakes, dupes, and widgets that he had collected." >>



    Behold the elegance!

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