Is this Morgan pitted?

blu62vette

Would you consider this pitting or something else?

fcloud

They are raised bumps in the die. Not sure if rust or just marks in the die, but they can be found on many Morgans.

DUIGUY

I dunno, but sure would love to take pis like that!

dan8402

My first thought was a rusted die.

coinkid855

Could it be a counterfeit? I've never seen a die (let alone both dies) rusted all-over like that....



-Paul

blu62vette

<< <i>Could it be a counterfeit? I've never seen a die (let alone both dies) rusted all-over like that....



-Paul >>



Nope on that one, it is in a PCGS 65 Holder. The coin is a 1883-O.

coinkid855

Nevermind then It must be a rusted die.



-Paul

messydesk

<< <i>I dunno, but sure would love to take pis like that! >>


I think you meant "pics"

Anyway, rusted dies, with light pitting throughout the devices. Is this an 83-O? I think I've seen that diagonal through the O before.

AUandAG

Yep, rusted dies.


bob

PS: Good old humid and wet New Orleans!

blu62vette

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<< <i>I dunno, but sure would love to take pis like that! >>


I think you meant "pics"

Anyway, rusted dies, with light pitting throughout the devices. Is this an 83-O? I think I've seen that diagonal through the O before. >>



Here is a better look at that diagonal

sumdunce

1883-O/O VAM3

You can confirm it if there is doubling on the 1 in 1883. It should be at the bottom of the crossbar (top left of the 1) and the left top side of the vertical shaft.



S

blu62vette

I thought this was vam 3? The 2 look different. This one you can see the curve and the prior one looks to have something more straight inside the O.

sumdunce

It is VAM27 then.

Check the MM for doubling on the field on the lower left and right sides.



S

mustanggt

I don't think I have ever seen that much pitting or whatever on a coin before,

direwolf1972

While I wont hazard a guess at exactly which VAM right now... here is my thoughts on the pitting.

I've noticed a lot of pitting on several VAMs I have that dont have rusted dies or pitting noted on the VW page. I wondered about this the first several I ran into. Then I came up with a theory which I havent asked to see if I'm correct or not.

I think LVA treats pitting in much the same way as die chips, breaks, scratches & gouges. I think that they have to be readily visible to the naked eye to list. Meaning that the pitting has to be concentrated in certain areas to form larger blobs of pitting, instead of pitting being uniformly distributed.

Maybe someone else can give their input on this to verify if I'm correct in my thoughts.

anablep

Great pictures!

Looks like a rusted die struck that coin, as stated above.

I have an 1883 with pitting on the obverse.

nesvt

Yes, pitted dies. I have several 83-P's and 83-O's that look similar to your images.