1826 Bust Half - Overton attribution help

Millertime

I'm taking a crack at using my new book and my best guess is that this bust half is an Overton 110. How did I do?



Thanks,
Millertime

zap1111

Nice coin! I like the look. Using the Peterson guide, I think you've got an Overton 108 - the TI relationship and the end of the scroll's position in relation to the M lead me to believe this. Congrats on a good find.
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Millertime

<< <i>Nice coin! I like the look. Using the Peterson guide, I think you've got an Overton 108 - the TI relationship and the end of the scroll's position in relation to the M lead me to believe this. Congrats on a good find.
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I don't see the die crack through stars 2 to 7.

Millertime

Quarternut

Yep...definitely an O-108 R-1. For the obverse look at the position of where the stars point to on the dentils at Star-1, 7, 8 and 13. These positions are unique for each working die.

It is the early die stage before the cracks developed.

The Overton book states "This crack, although sometimes very light is nearly always visible on this obverse."

Which means that it does come without the crack.


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Millertime

Ok, after carefully looking again and again and again I finally see the die crack. I went through all the varieties and had definitely ruled out everything except for about 6 possible varieties so I was close.

I absolutely can't see the die crack in the picture and the other markers seem so hard to define. What stood out when you declared this the O-108?

Thanks,
Millertime

Quarternut

For the obverse I always start with the stars. As I said, check where each star points to the dentils. Secondly look at how close to each other star-5 & star-6 are and how far apart star-6 & star-7 are for this particular die.

The date is also important. Look to see where the numerals line up over the dentils and how they are spaced in relationship to each other.

For the reverse, the first thing I look for is the alignment of the letters in the motto on the scroll to the letters in the legend above them. The 2nd T in STATES and the I in PLURIBUS as well as the last S in STATES and the last S in PLURIBUS are key. If there is doubt after those points then look at the O in OF and the U in UNUM. Also where the scroll starts in relationship to the letters in the legend and where it stops can be a determining feature. Lastly look at how close the final A in America is to the top arrowhead, and the position of the denomination, with the C & stem end being key.

The Overton book gives the positions of the star/dentil relationships, but there can be some leeway in how each person views them. If there is any question about one of the positions then just look at more stars and you will find that they will match when you have the right die.

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Quarternut

I absolutely can't see the die crack in the picture and the other markers seem so hard to define

Die cracks can be an easy way to narrow down which die marriage it is, but don't always rely on them as there can always be different stages showing more or less cracks.

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seemyauction

Great looking coin...........

Cladiator

Cool, looks like the one being sold on the BST.