I think it's an imortant find since it is the only one known to exist. I also think that it's unbelievable that someone has this much knowledge on a single series that you were able to walk into the long beach expo and grab this for under ten bucks! lets see what the other members think.
I read the article but cannot recall-- is there an estimated value on this coin?
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
When you cherried it, was the coin being sold as a proof or a business strike?
Also, you said the eagle was the friendly variety- does this mean that the eagle's head shape and characteristics match RDV-006?
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Ok for those of us not knowledgable about Ikes.....what makes this coin valuable.....is it the only known 1971-S Proof or is it the composition or is it simply a new die variety never before seen?
<<<Ok for those of us not knowledgable about Ikes.....what makes this coin valuable.....is it the only known 1971-S Proof or is it the composition or is it simply a new die variety never before seen?>>>
The dies used to strike this proof Ike were not used for a regular production run on proof or business strike Ikes.
This appears to be an experimentaly produced coin which got released somehow.
If this had been produced on more standard type dies then it probably would have commanded a premium but since the dies were not used for any other purpose it is presently considered unique and as such commands a substantial premium.
At this point, time and searching will tell if more than one coin was released. I personally would love to see a prototype copper-nickel also.
S
Edited to correct copper-nickel not silver in last sentence, this prototype is silver.
When you cherried it, was the coin being sold as a proof or a business strike?
Also, you said the eagle was the friendly variety- does this mean that the eagle's head shape and characteristics match RDV-006? >>
Yes. No Furrowed Brow. >>
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<< <i><<<Ok for those of us not knowledgable about Ikes.....what makes this coin valuable.....is it the only known 1971-S Proof or is it the composition or is it simply a new die variety never before seen?>>>
The dies used to strike this proof Ike were not used for a regular production run on proof or business strike Ikes.
This appears to be an experimentaly produced coin which got released somehow.
If this had been produced on more standard type dies then it probably would have commanded a premium but since the dies were not used for any other purpose it is presently considered unique and as such commands a substantial premium.
At this point, time and searching will tell if more than one coin was released. I personally would love to see a prototype copper-nickel also.
S
Edited to correct copper-nickel not silver in last sentence, this prototype is silver. >>
Exactly correct Sumdunce!
The IKE Group believes that this particular coin was from very early in the development phase of what could and could not be successfully produced designwise. As to whether or not it is unique, at this point in time, that is simply unknown. I'm hoping it is though.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does the dealer you bought this from realize what you found? Did you tell him after you paid for it? What was the dealers name? This is really cool!!! Again CONGRATS!!!!!
Mark NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!! working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
<< <i>Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does the dealer you bought this from realize what you found? Did you tell him after you paid for it? What was the dealers name? This is really cool!!! Again CONGRATS!!!!! >>
Thank You and I do not have a real clear memory of who this dealer was just like I could not tell you who I purchased a couple of RAW 1941-D and 1941-S Jefferson's from that graded MS66FS at PCGS!
Anybody that knows me also knows that I cannot loupe worth a poop so the real significance of the coin was not learned until after the IKE Group received it. Just like those three 1971-S IKEs I picked up at a Denver show that looked like PegLeg business strikes which turned out to be, well, regular old business strikes! I'm fairly helpless with a loupe and have wasted more than my share of money!
Beside's, even if I did know what it was and who the dealer was, I would never divulge that I'd purchased a major score from him/her as I really enjoy my cherrypicking. Experience has taught me that when I go back and make such comments that I get cut off fairly quickly from any future cherrypicking.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
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Lee- I understand not wanting to tell due to the "cherry picking" BUT i would guess that any dealer at the show that has seen the copy of Coin world is scratching there head if they sold any "IKES". LOL Again another congrats!!!! I love reading about stuff of this nature.
Mark NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!! working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
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Do you suppose its "important"?
The name is LEE!
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
WTG Lee................................
The Beatles
<< <i>I read the article but cannot recall-- is there an estimated value on this coin? >>
Low to mid 5 figures.
If no others turn up in the near future, mid to high 5 figures.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>pic ? for those of us not in the "loop" thanks >>
Old thread with pics.
Coin World scan:
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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And I think it's important.
When you cherried it, was the coin being sold as a proof or a business strike?
Also, you said the eagle was the friendly variety- does this mean that the eagle's head shape and characteristics match RDV-006?
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<< <i>Congrats, Lee! A couple of questions:
When you cherried it, was the coin being sold as a proof or a business strike?
Also, you said the eagle was the friendly variety- does this mean that the eagle's head shape and characteristics match RDV-006? >>
Yes. No Furrowed Brow.
The name is LEE!
The earth does not appear to match any of the previous die types. Would this make it a new RDV type?
S
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The earth does not appear to match any of the previous die types. Would this make it a new RDV type?
S >>
James Wiles has this listed as a new Obverse Die Variety (ODV-010) and a new Reverse Die Variety (RDV-007), so Yes.
It is also listed as a new Wiles DDO Variety (DDO-023).
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The label wasn't nearly big enough to accomodate all the "designations"!
The name is LEE!
The dies used to strike this proof Ike were not used for a regular production run on proof or business strike Ikes.
This appears to be an experimentaly produced coin which got released somehow.
If this had been produced on more standard type dies then it probably would have commanded a premium but since the dies were not used for any other purpose it is presently considered unique and as such commands a substantial premium.
At this point, time and searching will tell if more than one coin was released. I personally would love to see a prototype copper-nickel also.
S
Edited to correct copper-nickel not silver in last sentence, this prototype is silver.
-Randy Newman
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<< <i>Congrats, Lee! A couple of questions:
When you cherried it, was the coin being sold as a proof or a business strike?
Also, you said the eagle was the friendly variety- does this mean that the eagle's head shape and characteristics match RDV-006? >>
Yes. No Furrowed Brow. >>
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<< <i><<<Ok for those of us not knowledgable about Ikes.....what makes this coin valuable.....is it the only known 1971-S Proof or is it the composition or is it simply a new die variety never before seen?>>>
The dies used to strike this proof Ike were not used for a regular production run on proof or business strike Ikes.
This appears to be an experimentaly produced coin which got released somehow.
If this had been produced on more standard type dies then it probably would have commanded a premium but since the dies were not used for any other purpose it is presently considered unique and as such commands a substantial premium.
At this point, time and searching will tell if more than one coin was released. I personally would love to see a prototype copper-nickel also.
S
Edited to correct copper-nickel not silver in last sentence, this prototype is silver. >>
Exactly correct Sumdunce!
The IKE Group believes that this particular coin was from very early in the development phase of what could and could not be successfully produced designwise. As to whether or not it is unique, at this point in time, that is simply unknown. I'm hoping it is though.
The name is LEE!
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
GrandAm
Brian
I love Variety & Error Ikes!
<< <i>Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does the dealer you bought this from realize what you found? Did you tell him after you paid for it? What was the dealers name? This is really cool!!! Again CONGRATS!!!!! >>
Thank You and I do not have a real clear memory of who this dealer was just like I could not tell you who I purchased a couple of RAW 1941-D and 1941-S Jefferson's from that graded MS66FS at PCGS!
Anybody that knows me also knows that I cannot loupe worth a poop so the real significance of the coin was not learned until after the IKE Group received it. Just like those three 1971-S IKEs I picked up at a Denver show that looked like PegLeg business strikes which turned out to be, well, regular old business strikes! I'm fairly helpless with a loupe and have wasted more than my share of money!
Beside's, even if I did know what it was and who the dealer was, I would never divulge that I'd purchased a major score from him/her as I really enjoy my cherrypicking. Experience has taught me that when I go back and make such comments that I get cut off fairly quickly from any future cherrypicking.
The name is LEE!
........congrats on the discovery, lee!!
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
That makes 2 of this particular die marriage and a third coin with a different die marriage consisting of ODV-011 and RDV-007.
Only 3 coins with RDV-007 have been found. I wonder how many more there are?
The name is LEE!