How common or uncommon is it for "original" 1947-1958 Mint Sets to have silver coins with
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I have not seen many of these sets and do not have much first hand experience with them. I did see some sets touted as original last week. The silver coins at best had light rim toning while the cents and nickels generally had much more toning.
I suspect that the silvers may have been switched out, however all of the silvers in all of the sets looked the same. That strikes me as strange and would indicated that all silvers were switched out, which would seem to me unlikely.
Most times when I have seen sets of these from the later 1950's only one or two silver coins were white while the rest were toned, leaving me to believe that Gem Silver coins with nice toning were switched out and replaced with a white coin.
Any thoughts?
I suspect that the silvers may have been switched out, however all of the silvers in all of the sets looked the same. That strikes me as strange and would indicated that all silvers were switched out, which would seem to me unlikely.
Most times when I have seen sets of these from the later 1950's only one or two silver coins were white while the rest were toned, leaving me to believe that Gem Silver coins with nice toning were switched out and replaced with a white coin.
Any thoughts?
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I viewed a run of 1947-1957 Mint Sets in the original wrappers a few weeks ago (dry environment, high 'desert' conditions) and I was convinced the coins were original and unswapped. Only one set had much toning (1956--seems they all look nice!!!) and all the rest were basically white (copper had taken on that 'matte' look from the sulphurous paper).
Admittedly, these were the first sets I had seen in a long time that I would have deemed 'original', yet they still appeared very lightly toned.
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I suspect some people take the orig. cardboard holders and plug in brilliant coins which tend to tone lightly around the edges in just a couple of years depending on environmental conditions..................
I would reckon 9 out of 10 sets you see today have at least one coin plucked out and another substituted in it's place .
The orig. buyers of mint sets of the 48 -58 era would presumably be in their 70's and 80's now and I believe a very large percentage of those sets have already made there way onto the market .
An orig. mint set today is a very scarce item and the demand is huge; I doubt if 10% of the government sets exist today in there orig. owners possession .
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<< <i>95 % of the orig. mint sets I have seen over the past 20 years have been moderately to heavily toned .
I suspect some people take the orig. cardboard holders and plug in brilliant coins which tend to tone lightly around the edges in just a couple of years depending on environmental conditions..................
I would reckon 9 out of 10 sets you see today have at least one coin plucked out and another substituted in it's place .
The orig. buyers of mint sets of the 48 -58 era would presumably be in their 70's and 80's now and I believe a very large percentage of those sets have already made there way onto the market .
An orig. mint set today is a very scarce item and the demand is huge; I doubt if 10% of the government sets exist today in there orig. owners possession . >>
I have a 57 mint set I'm 100% sure is all original, I bought it from the original buyer. But I agree with your post that most have probably hit the market already and/or select coins have been been picked over and replaced.
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Within the sets I bought which included toned coins...I did find coins that were essentially untoned but not the entire set....just a coin here or there especially with the 1955-S mint coins.
- the sealed sets are somewhat of a scam i.m.h.o ; i bought a few that were absolutely NOT orig. and they were sealed ..........
who sealed them , when and how they were sealed is any body's guess ..........
Like I said , you got the "eye" alright and you got a rabbit's foot in your ............er..............
pocket - but chances are a few of your sets were previously plucked !
Yes, many sets have been picked over. You can usually tell when the sets have been picked over if you've seen enough of them and have an eye for it.
But there are still many original sets out there just sitting in some one's dresser or attic.
<< <i>kyrpton - i have seen a few of your mint set pieces and i must say you are either extremely lucky or you got access to hundreds of coin shows or some kind of pipeline to a "source" !
- the sealed sets are somewhat of a scam i.m.h.o ; i bought a few that were absolutely NOT orig. and they were sealed ..........
who sealed them , when and how they were sealed is any body's guess ..........
Like I said , you got the "eye" alright and you got a rabbit's foot in your ............er..............
pocket - but chances are a few of your sets were previously plucked !
Rabbit's foot......all of my purchases have been Ebay and the vast majority via really crappy scans. It wouldn't suprise me if some of the sets I bought had some replaced coins but since they are usually heavily toned it's much easier to see a coin with toning that doesn't match. I agree with you about the sealed sets.......the two I bought were legit though and the coins all came back very high grade...much higher than the normal set I was purchasing so if they were picked through......I don't know what the heck else they were looking for...