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Help on Pres $1 coin errors

I received several rolls from the Mint's direct ship program and I think I found some good errors but I could help identifing / confirming what I think I found!

I'd also like to get your opinions of these errors, how rare they are, and how much they would be worth!

I took the best pics I could get... the coin 4 pics turned out the best and I figured out what to use to prop my coins up now!

All coins are from the Philly mint (except George Washingtons which were from Denver).

Coin 1 (Obverse):
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Coin 1 (Close-up of error area):
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Coin 1 assesment:
I'm guessing by the jagged edges & shifted metal that it is a deffective planchet / maybe an air bubble that burst when struck?





Coin 2 (Side):
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Coin 2 (Obverse):
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Coin 2 (Reverse):
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Coin 2 assesment:
It looks like there is some minor waffling from jammed feeder fingers? How do TGPs know that these types of errors are caused from the mint?





Coin 3 (Side):
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Coin 3 (Obverse):
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Coin 3 (Reverse):
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Coin 3 assesment:
Similar to coin 2, waffling error / feeder fingers but more pronounced





Coin 4 (Obverse):
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Coin 4 (Reverse):
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Coin 4 assesment:
Looks like maybe it was grease filled dies or something similar, especially since the reverse looks well struck and has no errors.





Coin 5:
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Coin 6:
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Coins 5 & 6 assesment:
Minor clipped planchets




Thank you very much for looking and giving me your opinions!! I have learned so much from this board and I hope that I'm right on some of my assesments!
Buying £2 Britannias

Comments

  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    Coin 1 looks like a lamination error coin that got caught in a rolling machine and was forceably removed. Will probably BB for damaged after striking.

    Coins 2 and 3 both are damaged after strike and would be BB candidates.

    Coin 4 has a struck through grease appearance. the missing "ES" from "PRESIDENT" gives it some extra eye appeal. However, the damage to the obverse rim area at 3 and 11 O'clock may make this one BB too.

    Coins 5 and 6 I can't really get a good look at based on the pictures but I would guess 5 is a defective planchet and 6 is a 1% (or less) clip.

    These are just my guesses based on what I see.

    Hope it helps.



    S
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin #1 is what we old-time errorist call a "rim burr." During the planchet upsetting process, sometimes the edge of the planchet gets caught in the track of the upsetting mill and a sliver of metal gets partially sheared off and pushed in over the field of the planchet. If it does not dislodge before it gets struck, that sliver gets struck down into the field.
    It is considered a minor error, worth a small premium.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • ajbaumanajbauman Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
    Well that is dissapointing that they all seem be be BB coins. image

    I'm a little confused on coins 2 & 3, I received the coins directly from the Mint.... so the damage is definately from the mint.

    I also found several off-center strikes, but none of them are off of the planchet just not 100% centered. Would these be worth any type of premiums?
    Buying £2 Britannias
  • Even if damage occured at mint facility it is still damage not an error.
    Don't confuse physical plant......The mint vs. act of minting.
    Simple rule is if anything occurs before or as coin is struck thats OK.........anything that occurs after coin is struck then its not OK.
    If a blank got cut in half and then the half of a blank got struck it would be a major error.
    If on the other hand a coin got struck then later cut in half it would be post minting damage.
  • ajbaumanajbauman Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for that clarification 2manycoins2fewfunds. I will keep that in mind.
    Buying £2 Britannias
  • ajbaumanajbauman Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
    ttt for the night crowd
    Buying £2 Britannias
  • ajbaumanajbauman Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
    ttt... good morning
    Buying £2 Britannias
  • ajbaumanajbauman Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
    ttt...morning
    Buying £2 Britannias
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tuesday's answers are sufficient.

    One coin is a Rim Burr (Capt. Henway's reply)

    The other coins are damaged after they were struck,
    and were probably caught in the rolling machine.
    They are not errors.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.

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