Double struck Mercury Dime?

norwegianguy

Look at these pictures of a coin I recently bought. I have not had it authenticated yet, so it may or may not be a counterfeit. I really don't know.
The coin seems to be a 1942 over 1941, but not the regular 1942/1. This coin is much more dramatic.

So... is this a really cool thing, or is it an attempt from someone to produce a 1942/1?

commoncents05

Counterfeit 1942/1. Looks like a genuine 1942 with a strike from (likely) transfer dies of a 1941.

-Paul

UtahCoin

Looks counterfeit to me too.....

Broadstruck

I've been looking at it for a few minutes now... there's a lot on happening on this Merc that just doesn't jive

Looking at the overlap of rotation this looks more multiple struck then just double.

There are some Philly date D/S Mercs from the 1940's... but this doesn't look like the real deal to me.

errormaven

Counterfeit. At least the second strike is. The warped surfaces are dead giveaways, as is the occurrence of blended overlap in some spots.

Broadstruck

<< <i>Counterfeit. At least the second strike is. The warped surfaces are dead giveaways, as is the occurrence of blended overlap in some spots. >>



errormaven, is this a cast fake error as it's not a sandwiched basement variety

errormaven

I see no evidence of casting. Counterfeit dies were used on at least the second strike.

Broadstruck

<< <i>I see no evidence of casting. Counterfeit dies were used on at least the second strike. >>



I thought that might be the case, but it's a lot of work for just one error... so I guess it's save to assume there are dozens of these out there

CaptHenway

False die overstrike.
TD

GrumpyEd

The coin is real but the second strike probably was done with a soft die so it's post mint.

Probably made in a vice with a sheet of soft metal.

FordRailroader

I don't have a clue...but those pics sure made me dizzy

Broadstruck

I hope you not too deep into this Merc

These raw double struck counterfeits just like the 2 1964 25c fakes that just sold on Ebay for $666 are mighty attractive to a novice.

However it is 2008 and if this where genuine it would have some sort of TPG service authenticity.

You get what you pay for and sometimes if it's too good a deal there's a reason why.

These are sort of like Chinese food... if it doesn't instantly look like Chicken don't eat it!

WoodenJefferson

Questions?

The real mint dime is what year?

Why did the perps go to the trouble to restrike both obverse and reverse?

The second strike is what year and how was the progression accomplished?

norwegianguy

Broadstruck:
Well, I did pay a lot for it, but I bought it from a french dealer that I trust and from whom I have bought a few excellent coins in the past. He has offered me a full refund if I return it, and I think I will.

I planned to have it authenticated first, but from what I read here there may not even be a need to do so.


...but when it comes to TPG slabs... almost no one here in Europe use those services at all. Even the most reputated dealers here steer away from TPG services.

Broadstruck

<< <i>Broadstruck:
Well, I did pay a lot for it, but I bought it from a french dealer that I trust and from whom I have bought a few excellent coins in the past. He has offered me a full refund if I return it, and I think I will.

I planned to have it authenticated first, but from what I read here there may not even be a need to do so. >>



I'm just a collector, but errormaven is an expert.

FredWeinberg and Byers are most likely at LB, so it might be a while till they join in.

However once you get a few opinions on the board from these Error experts there's no longer a need to have it authenticated.

If genuine I feel based on the detail this would be a $4K+/- error, and I'm glad to hear your able to get a full refund!