1928 China Auto Dollar

98pandaman

I was thinking of submitting this for certification. Thanks for your image help. I forgot about my photobucket account. Here are some better pictures.

Weight seems to be 27 grams.

FilamCoins

The reverse is upside down.

ajaan

Many fakes of these around. I don't know if yours is one or not. Hopefully not. I like these coins a lot.

rec78

Many fakes of these around. I don't know if yours is one or not. Hopefully not. I like these coins a lot.
That coin is definately worth slabbing - way too many fakes and real ones are few and far between.

newbiecollector

I took your photo, turned the rev over, guessed at the brightnes and combined into one photo.
Hope you don't mind

98pandaman

Posted better pix in my initial post. I think coin is genuine. Thanks again.

theboz11

Best way to tell is to weigh it. it is supposed to be 25.8 grms.

sumnom

These really is an interesting coin. I take the depcition of the car to be a declaration of modernity. Is that the case? Why choose a car for a coin?

secondrepublic

Is that a Buick?

That's a serious question. Because Chinese elites owned Buicks early in the 20th Century, Buicks have quite a reputation there, and GM is now selling more Buicks in China than in the US.

SYRACUSIAN

<< <i>These really is an interesting coin. I take the depcition of the car to be a declaration of modernity. Is that the case? Why choose a car for a coin? >>





According to Krause, the subject is :First road in Kweichow and it is known as the Auto Dollar as it purports to portray the governor's automobile.

shirohniichan

Too bad I can't see Photobucket photos from my work PC.

Even though I can't see your coin, I'm envious. I've wanted one of those to add to my Chinese "silver dollar" collection, but not enough to pay the $800+ price tags I've seen on nice VF and better specimens.

BillyKingsley

I'd really like to get one of them as well...but can't see spending that kind of money on a coin! I have been a car collector of all sorts for years (decades, actually) and would like to have that one.

lordmarcovan

As mentioned, there are so many fakes of these out there I wouldn't touch one with a 30-foot pole.

However, since you already own it, good luck on the submission, and may it come back in plastic as the Real McCoy!

98pandaman

the coin seems to weigh 27 grams.

TheNumish

Heritage auctioned one similar to yours last August for $977. In the same auction a PCGS VF35 sold for $2,300.

CIVITAS

Doesn't really look authentic in the photos, but these really can't be authenticated from photos. If it's truly 27 grams then it's definitely bogus.

Double check the weight with a scale that measures to the hundredth of a gram. These can weigh into the low 26s, but 27 I think is definitely outside the range.

cob250

See: "An Overview of China's Gold & Silver Coins of Past Ages"
Dong Wenchao of a.o. the Chinese Numismatic Society
ISBN 962-531-001-0
Page 664:
Weight : 26,5 g
Diam. : 39 mm.
Fineness : 88 %
If somebody mentions a characteristic of a coin, in order to comment on "false" or "genuine", it would be better the mention the source of his wisdom.

98pandaman

So could this coin I have still be genuine? Several people assured coin weight is 25.5+ area but now some coin book says 26.5. Not looking good for my coin!!

newbiecollector

Read what CIVITAS posted above.

I'm am pretty sure you can rely on his judgement, I sure do.

CIVITAS

<< <i>So could this coin I have still be genuine? Several people assured coin weight is 25.5+ area but now some coin book says 26.5. Not looking good for my coin!! >>



It could certainly still be genuine, but you'll need at the very least an accurate weight. If you have a local coin dealer you frequent, ask him to weigh it for you and get an accurate measurement to the hundredth of a gram. It'll go a long way.

To remove any doubt, send it to NCS or ANACS. It would be worth the $30-$40 to know for sure.