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kingraider75
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Can't/won't spend the money on a hobby box. Anything worth picking up at Target for $9.99 or $19.99??
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of bowman around and the RC class in that is amazing. I still think that buying 20 bucks of hobby packs over the long run will do you much
better than 20 bucks in retail. It also helps when you are buying out of fresh hobby boxes. Don't feel bad asking a dealer to open another box
if there are just a few left in one box and of course never buy loose retail packs.
Good Luck
Kevin
If I were to buy a box of 2008 Bowman baseball from Target will it differ from the local baseball card store version of the box?
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hobby packs is also controled by supply and demand. Retail packs, if you can find them, are always the same price. Most Upper Deck and
Fleer retail packs are dead, meaning the odds of pulling an autograph card is not worth it. An autograph card in say base UD may be
1:48 packs at 5 bucks a pack, while the odds in retail, where the packs are only 2.99 per may be 1:144. You don't have to be a math major
to figure that out.
Also keep in mind that UD puts no odds on their boxes, which means, they owe you nothing. Now retail packs are a slippery subject anyways
when you are talking about guarenteed hits, as there is no way to guarentee retail odds bigger than 1:24 packs (because that is the biggest
lot they well at one time). Hobby odds, because they are better and are bought through a hobby dealer have much more backing. One auto
per box is trackable.
Few products deliver value at the retail level. All the products do have one thing in common...they all contain cards that are popular and
that pull several per box of even every pack. Ginter is an exception as the minis are one per pack and are popular, so over the course of a
box rip you will have some nice cards. Chrome usually produces rarer parallels such as refractors and rookie cards. Most 24 count retail
boxes produce one common game used cards and a stack of base common cards..total worth: zilch.
I sugest you visit a hobby shop, pick a few packs out of a fresh box and take them home with you. You will do much better than boxes
at target or walmart that the card companies know they can get away with putting nothing in them!
Kevin
That is some great feedback! thank you!
I am really digging these new 2008 Goudey cards...during my ebay browse I found plenty of "hot packs" guaranteed to contain a game used/auto card...seems to sell for about $9 a pack, I am thinking with one seller offering many of these packs and combined shipping these are well worth it compared to buying a full hobby box...(if game used/auto is your thing)
I've had some great reads since joining this forum, the knowledge base is top shelf in this community.
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2008 Bowman Baseball Draft Picks and Prospects
It contains cards of players not necessarily in the MLB, but close to it. If you are a fan of rookie cards, this would be the stuff to buy and keep sealed. The retail boxes have like 10 packs in them and sell for 19.99 at Target or Walmart. The hobby boxes have 24 packs, but you have much better odds at hitting those special cards.
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<< <i>JoeStalin,
That is some great feedback! thank you!
I am really digging these new 2008 Goudey cards...during my ebay browse I found plenty of "hot packs" guaranteed to contain a game used/auto card...seems to sell for about $9 a pack, I am thinking with one seller offering many of these packs and combined shipping these are well worth it compared to buying a full hobby box...(if game used/auto is your thing)
I've had some great reads since joining this forum, the knowledge base is top shelf in this community. >>
Do what you will but buying from scumbags like that just makes them go out and do it some more.
<< <i>Nick pulled the King George III cut signature card from a Ginter retail blaster
Never knew that came from retail.
My Sandberg topps basic set
My Sandberg Topps Master set
<< <i>Hobby packs usually have better odds and better cards in them. The trade off is price. Most retail packs are 1.99-3.99 a pack. The price of
hobby packs is also controled by supply and demand. Retail packs, if you can find them, are always the same price. Most Upper Deck and
Fleer retail packs are dead, meaning the odds of pulling an autograph card is not worth it. An autograph card in say base UD may be
1:48 packs at 5 bucks a pack, while the odds in retail, where the packs are only 2.99 per may be 1:144. You don't have to be a math major
to figure that out.
Also keep in mind that UD puts no odds on their boxes, which means, they owe you nothing. Now retail packs are a slippery subject anyways
when you are talking about guarenteed hits, as there is no way to guarentee retail odds bigger than 1:24 packs (because that is the biggest
lot they well at one time). Hobby odds, because they are better and are bought through a hobby dealer have much more backing. One auto
per box is trackable.
Few products deliver value at the retail level. All the products do have one thing in common...they all contain cards that are popular and
that pull several per box of even every pack. Ginter is an exception as the minis are one per pack and are popular, so over the course of a
box rip you will have some nice cards. Chrome usually produces rarer parallels such as refractors and rookie cards. Most 24 count retail
boxes produce one common game used cards and a stack of base common cards..total worth: zilch.
I sugest you visit a hobby shop, pick a few packs out of a fresh box and take them home with you. You will do much better than boxes
at target or walmart that the card companies know they can get away with putting nothing in them!
Kevin >>
If I'm remembering right, most of the threads last year pulled winners from cards sold at Target.
Sometimes the Hobby has other exclusives as well. ie- 2007 Topps Update- patches in Hobby only. 2007 Bowman Draft- Patches in hobby only.
And sometimes retail Bowman wont have the "normal" autos. Just the unfavored stickered SOTF (Signs of the Future) ones. I know it was this was for 2007 Bowman Draft.
I always try to buy Hobby. HTA (Home Team Advantage) has even better odds.
Loose retail packs are subject to searching and I've gotten cards from them that apparently the previous handler was a 10 year old and dropped the pack on the corner a few times. Either that or a mad kid that his Mom told him no more packs.
<< <i>JoeStalin,
That is some great feedback! thank you!
I am really digging these new 2008 Goudey cards...during my ebay browse I found plenty of "hot packs" guaranteed to contain a game used/auto card...seems to sell for about $9 a pack, I am thinking with one seller offering many of these packs and combined shipping these are well worth it compared to buying a full hobby box...(if game used/auto is your thing)
I've had some great reads since joining this forum, the knowledge base is top shelf in this community. >>
Keep in mind that these hot packs will contain GU cards 100% of the time, why? Because you can not search autograph cards in Goudey short
of opening 23 packs of hobby and assuming that the last pack will have an auto (highly unlikely) or opening it and resealing. GU cards are
thicker and can be searched (that is what these 9 dollar packs are). that may seem like a good deal but 95% of the GU cards in Goudey are
not worth 9 bucks...not even 5 bucks!
I know these seem like a great deal, I often look at a hobby box as 24 total packs...22 of those packs are not going to be worth the 4-5 dollars
I pay for them, and 2 of those packs will probably be worth 10 maybe 15 bucks. Weeding out the junk may see like it is worth the extra
few bucks, but the people who sell these packs can not be trusted. If you had a pack of cards and thought it contained an autograph and that
autograph could be a Tiger Woods worth 10,000 dollars, would you sell that pack for a 4 dollar mark up? I wouldn't it.
Good Luck
Kevin
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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<< <i>JoeStalin,
That is some great feedback! thank you!
I am really digging these new 2008 Goudey cards...during my ebay browse I found plenty of "hot packs" guaranteed to contain a game used/auto card...seems to sell for about $9 a pack, I am thinking with one seller offering many of these packs and combined shipping these are well worth it compared to buying a full hobby box...(if game used/auto is your thing)
I've had some great reads since joining this forum, the knowledge base is top shelf in this community. >>
Keep in mind that these hot packs will contain GU cards 100% of the time, why? Because you can not search autograph cards in Goudey short
of opening 23 packs of hobby and assuming that the last pack will have an auto (highly unlikely) or opening it and resealing. GU cards are
thicker and can be searched (that is what these 9 dollar packs are). that may seem like a good deal but 95% of the GU cards in Goudey are
not worth 9 bucks...not even 5 bucks!
I know these seem like a great deal, I often look at a hobby box as 24 total packs...22 of those packs are not going to be worth the 4-5 dollars
I pay for them, and 2 of those packs will probably be worth 10 maybe 15 bucks. Weeding out the junk may see like it is worth the extra
few bucks, but the people who sell these packs can not be trusted. If you had a pack of cards and thought it contained an autograph and that
autograph could be a Tiger Woods worth 10,000 dollars, would you sell that pack for a 4 dollar mark up? I wouldn't it.
Good Luck
Kevin >>
Spot on!
feel for stickers
xx for plates
xx for serial numbers
resealing
...and I though collation patterns were bad in the 80's.
<< <i>The autographs can be searched in retail packs. Searchers will fan the cards in the packs and feel for the sticker on the back of the cards. Me and a CSM watched a guy at Wal-mart doing just that. >>
True, but UD cards have no sticker and it looks like topps is doing away with it also. A&G autos had no sticker. Even the 1/1's were plain on the
back. Combine that with the long retail odds as it is and you know there will be no ink in these packs.
Kevin
At the same time, I purchased a Pit Stop box of 20 NASCAR cards. This is one of those "discount" looking boxes with a mix of different cards. The box was $19.99, so $1 a pack for some NASCAR cards I figured was a good deal. Out of the 20 packs, I pulled 29 insert, but all low end. No autos or gu's.
Next time I will just wait and buy a hobby box. But I felt the need to rip!