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World Gold - Switzerland and China

First, a quarter ounce Panda from China.

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7.7759g. 0.25 oz of fine gold. PCGS MS-69. The stuff you see on the reverse is haze on the slab.
I don't know the mintage, nor the diameter, so if someone could fill that in, that would be nice!

The Chinese Panda has a "medal turn" where you flip the coin left-to-right to see the reverse design rather than flipping the coin end over end.

Next, an 1897 Swiss 20 Franc piece.

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6.4516g. 0.1867 oz of fine gold. Mintage 400,000. 21.2mm. NGC MS-64.

[edit] I guess this particular year is the first of the series and I did not call that out. I only call it a bullion coin because the series overall seems to be very available at very little premium.

It took over 45 days to get this coin from eBay. I was sweating bullets. The thread on this is available in the US forum.

It's hard to take a picture of this type of coin and keep the mountainous background looking like mountains. Most pictures I see, the mountains looks like blotchy fields.


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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    The Swiss is a first year issue of the Vrenelli type, quite a nice grade for the date and not really a bullion coin. Congrats on the coins and photos.image
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  • Have always LOVED Swiss Helvetia's.. A Beautiful design...
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I like this Swiss design too. "Liking the design" has been my main guide in my world coin purchasing so far. It has been an interesting approach, but now I have a big reference book so I will settle down and do some reading.

    It is interesting to me that, like the French Rooster coin, it has strong vertical die polish lines in the fields.

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    I guess the die polish lines are only on the reverse of the rooster coin, and the lines are pretty darn pronounced, too.

    You can also see the paleness of the French gold coin here. That is caused by the silver fill metal. I am using identical white balance settings for all of my photos here, so the relative colors are pretty accurate.
    The Swiss coin appears to have copper in it, as evidenced by the slight toning.
    The Chinese coin is pure gold, but has a slight surface copper spot. Most seem to have some sort of spot; this one is really visible only to the camera and to very good eyes.

    Oh, how I enjoy the world gold.

  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    Oh, how I enjoy the world gold.

    So do I thanks for sharing! image
    I have non of these coins in my world gold collection yet, but I'm sure I will add them at some point.

  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Gold is good and world gold in beautiful. image

    What is your light source, you captured the color nicely. Hard to do with gold.image
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Swiss 20FF coins were created for coinage until the 1935 dated issues. The 1935 and 1947 dated coins were created for bullion.
    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is your light source, you captured the color nicely. Hard to do with gold.image >>



    I am using two small $5 gooseneck lamps that I bought at a hardware store. They both have a standard 60W incandescent bulb in them. They are both positioned carefully as I look through the viewfinder to try to catch the coin in a good way.

    For example, with the Panda proof, I wanted a little bit of highlight on the proof like areas of the coin, but I did not want any substantial bright reflections.
    With the Swiss coin, or any coin with a bust, I try to get the primary lighting above and in front of the face, with a secondary weaker light filling in some shadows, usually from below.

    The two lamps are sometimes set as close as 5 inches from my subject, sometimes as much as 15 inches away.


  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Swiss 20FF coins were created for coinage until the 1935 dated issues. The 1935 and 1947 dated coins were created for bullion. >>




    The 1935 LB (minted from 1945 to '47) were also very likely minted from Nazi gold which had been "obtained" from German Jews prior to 1945.
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>The Swiss 20FF coins were created for coinage until the 1935 dated issues. The 1935 and 1947 dated coins were created for bullion. >>




    The 1935 LB (minted from 1945 to '47) were also very likely minted from Nazi gold which had been "obtained" from German Jews prior to 1945. >>



    Allegedly the coins test for traces of mercury, the only source of which in that batch, would likely have been dental gold. Thankfully all my Vrenellis are pre-1910.

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    And the less commonly encountered:

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    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
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