* Direct credit or debit card payment via a merchant credit card account * PayPal * ProPay * Payment on pick-up
I don't think many part-time sellers are going to have their own merchant account - or want to pay all the fun fees that go along with one - statement fees, gateway fees, hundreds of $$$ for software up front, etc etc
I've never even heard of 'ProPay'
I doubt most of you are going to have strangers coming to your home to pick up their cards.
....so essentially, that leaves PAYPAL.
.....The reason I brought it up is I've seen several people on here who REFUSE to do Paypal, and prefer to deal with money orders, etc....as a matter of fact, I read a couple of comments like that people have posted in the last few days.
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"Starting this fall, eligible items paid with PayPal on eBay.com will be covered by PayPal Buyer Protection for the full purchase price and original shipping costs and at no additional cost. There will no longer be a coverage limit."
...yeah....I have faith in that.
Collecting my sports heroes, Roger Staubach and Kirby Puckett.
There is nothing that can stop a seller from accepting money orders. They just cannot communicate with the buyer that they do first. If a buyer wins and asks the seller if he can pay with a Money Order then the seller can accept the money order.
<< <i>There is nothing that can stop a seller from accepting money orders. They just cannot communicate with the buyer that they do first. If a buyer wins and asks the seller if he can pay with a Money Order then the seller can accept the money order. >>
So if this is the case, why is Ebay trying to convert things, with saying they are taking away paper payments? Can you tell me, leias, since you seem to be one of Ebay's bigger supporters on this board? It couldn't possibly be for them to make more money off of sellers, with their little brother Paypal, now could it? Hmm....
With the Ebay system allowing loopholes for paper payments, it's like asking the police if you can speed ahead of time, so that way you will not be fined if you get caught speeding. It's all outright b.s.
Its no different than cash payment or any other banned payment types on Ebay the seller cannot communicate it. That is the loophole Ebay uses to get out of totally banning these things which could get it into trouble.
Other sites do not even really offer the loophole you use their payment system or its tough stuff.
There's one reason and one reason only why Ebay is prohibiting mailed payments and it has NOTHING to do with enhancing "buyer confidence" (what a farce that is): they want their Paypal cut, simple as that. They are making all these changes hoping to bolster a corporation whose stock is in the TOILET the last three years (it has lost more than half its value over that span), and they believe these ridiculous changes are going to help turn that around? LOL!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>There's one reason and one reason only why Ebay is prohibiting mailed payments and it has NOTHING to do with enhancing "buyer confidence" (what a farce that is): they want their Paypal cut, simple as that. They are making all these changes hoping to bolster a corporation whose stock is in the TOILET the last three years (it has lost more than half its value over that span), and they believe these ridiculous changes are going to help turn that around? LOL! >>
Exactly!
Leias, keep on defending Ebay. You obviously don't see what's really going on, or maybe you do, and just don't want to admit it.
I have NEVER said ebay is not trying to raise its own income. So you can shove that LIE up your well you know. You read what you want to read which it typical of so many like you on these boards. Yes Ebay is trying to raise its own income. OHH the horror of a business trying to make money. That is just unheard of and illegal. I am trying to make money to and I am smart enough to know that Ebay will make these changes and I will adapt to them. I don't know why people like you think Ebay owes you anything they are a business.
Just like everyone keeps saying Ebay is banning mailed payment. That is not true. They are making it harder for sellers to accept them and that is their right.
I have been Paypal only since June of 2007, so that part does not affect my business one bit. The other changes though do and several I do not agree with at all like the feedback issue.
<< <i>There's one reason and one reason only why Ebay is prohibiting mailed payments and it has NOTHING to do with enhancing "buyer confidence" (what a farce that is): they want their Paypal cut, simple as that. They are making all these changes hoping to bolster a corporation whose stock is in the TOILET the last three years (it has lost more than half its value over that span), and they believe these ridiculous changes are going to help turn that around? LOL! >>
Exactly!
Leias, keep on defending Ebay. You obviously don't see what's really going on, or maybe you do, and just don't want to admit it. >>
who really cares?
I know I do not want to go back to the way it was in the 80s with paying full Beckett book value for the limited amount of cards that I found that fit my needs, and no real outlet to sell anything extra I had besides the small pocket of people at the local shop.
So what, if you can make something better then do it, but please stop whining and moaning about how you are getting screwed, when eBay has been one of the best things to happen to card collectors.
Excatly Ebay is going to do what they are going to do for their own reasons, your crying and whining is not gonna change a thing. Change is part of life you adapt or you don't plain and simple. Fact is the buyers will still be on Ebay regardless of if there are more or less sellers.
Many people do, both collectors and sellers, that's who. Of course, Ebay has the right to make whatever changes they deem fit. That is their right as a corporation, but we also have a right to object and complain, too.
It's also a ridiculous notion to suggest that by objecting to these new changes that the hobby will suddenly be hurled back to the '80s where collectors paid full Becket value for cards. PSA, for one, also didn't exist back then. Talk about hyperbole, LOL!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Many people do, both collectors and sellers, that's who. Of course, Ebay has the right to make whatever changes they deem fit. That is their right as a corporation, but we also have a right to object and complain, too.
It's also a ridiculous notion to suggest that by objecting to these new changes that the hobby will suddenly be hurled back to the '80s where collectors paid full Becket value for cards. PSA, for one, also didn't exist back then. Talk about hyperbole, LOL! >>
I am not saying that it will be, what I am saying is that everyone sounds like a bunch of ungrateful spoiled whining kids. Deal with it people, it is not that hard. You know how cheap it is to run a business on eBay against brick and mortar??? Get a grip, people do not know that they have it so good. Some of their changes are stupid, but in the over all scheme of things it is a lot better that what came before it.
Excatly Ebay is going to do what they are going to do for their own reasons, your crying and whining is not gonna change a thing. Change is part of life you adapt or you don't plain and simple. Fact is the buyers will still be on Ebay regardless of if there are more or less sellers.
I don't equate voicing objections or complaints as "crying" and "whining." In America, people have the right to voice their opinions on a particular topic and this is no different, IMO, and in fact, is a healthy discourse.
I also find it a bit ironic that you chastise others for voicing opinions, while you've been on here day and night over the last few days posting over and over again on every thread that even alludes to this topic. If you want to play the role of Ebay Defender that's fine, but chastising others for voicing their opinions is somewhat hypocritical, IMHO.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> Excatly Ebay is going to do what they are going to do for their own reasons, your crying and whining is not gonna change a thing. Change is part of life you adapt or you don't plain and simple. Fact is the buyers will still be on Ebay regardless of if there are more or less sellers.
I don't equate voicing objections or complaints as "crying" and "whining." In America, people have the right to voice their opinions on a particular topic and this is no different, IMO, and in fact, is a healthy discourse.
I also find it a bit ironic that you chastise others for voicing opinions, while you've been on here day and night over the last few days posting over and over again on every thread that even alludes to this topic. If you want to play the role of Ebay Defender that's fine, but chastising others for voicing their opinions is somewhat hypocritical, IMHO. >>
Instead of whining why don't you come up with a solution if you hate it so much. That is what made America great, not complaining like a spoiled teenager. I do not like a lot of the changes either, and am not going to defend them for it. I just find it funny that so many people are bashing eBay, speaking about how evil it is while at the same time enjoying its benefits.
Leias, why do you have a vested interest in upholding the communist like actions from Ebay/Paypal?
And it's not crying when people disagree with Ebay's new rip system. It's stating disagreement. Leias, just the other day you made up a thread "whining" and "crying" about not being paid for some auctions, correct? Why so contradicting all the time?
Sure, buyers will still be on Ebay, but the quality of product for sale will suffer. Clearly, it already has in a lot of areas.
Instead of whining why don't you come up with a solution if you hate it so much. That is what made America great, not complaining like a spoiled teenager. I do not like a lot of the changes either, and am not going to defend them for it. I just find it funny that so many people are bashing eBay, speaking about how evil it is while at the same time enjoying its benefits.
You must have difficulty understanding the English language, as you have failed again to grasp the point of my post. Voicing an opinion or objecting about a particular topic or policy is not whining. And the whole "this is what makes America great" thing is laughable (sounds like a Ford trucks commercial), and just another example of your use of hyperbole in a weak attempt to present your point. As I stated previously (if you bothered to read), Ebay has the right to implement whatever changes they deem fit, but this is a message board where opinions are voiced, and if you can't voice your opinion here, where can you? Of course, sellers will adapt to these changes. I'd say very few sellers will actually quit or boycott ebay over this issue, but come on down from the high horse for a moment, and try to remember this is a message board.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> Excatly Ebay is going to do what they are going to do for their own reasons, your crying and whining is not gonna change a thing. Change is part of life you adapt or you don't plain and simple. Fact is the buyers will still be on Ebay regardless of if there are more or less sellers.
I don't equate voicing objections or complaints as "crying" and "whining." In America, people have the right to voice their opinions on a particular topic and this is no different, IMO, and in fact, is a healthy discourse.
I also find it a bit ironic that you chastise others for voicing opinions, while you've been on here day and night over the last few days posting over and over again on every thread that even alludes to this topic. If you want to play the role of Ebay Defender that's fine, but chastising others for voicing their opinions is somewhat hypocritical, IMHO. >>
<< <i>I hated sending MOs, but I always did when I had no choice. >>
yep me too.
Sorry I disagree.
I just got sick of people whining like the world was ending over this.
My only point is that eBay revolutionized the online card selling market and we gained the benefit. So I am not really going to have a fit when they change their business model.
If someone came with out with one that worked better I would be all over it.
I email DSL Sports and Just Collect essentially asking (very nicely) what are you going to do now. (They only accept checks and money orders.) I haven't received a response, nor do I expect one.
<< <i>I email DSL Sports and Just Collect essentially asking (very nicely) what are you going to do now. (They only accept checks and money orders.) I haven't received a response, nor do I expect one.
/s/ JackWESQ >>
I thought just collect took paypal,
I have actually had a money order get lost en route to DSL Sports before, and actually paid for an item twice before receiving it, so I am interested to see how they respond.
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* PayPal
* ProPay
* Payment on pick-up
I don't think many part-time sellers are going to have their own merchant account - or want to pay all the fun fees that go along with one - statement fees, gateway fees, hundreds of $$$ for software up front, etc etc
I've never even heard of 'ProPay'
I doubt most of you are going to have strangers coming to your home to pick up their cards.
....so essentially, that leaves PAYPAL.
.....The reason I brought it up is I've seen several people on here who REFUSE to do Paypal, and prefer to deal with money orders, etc....as a matter of fact, I read a couple of comments like that people have posted in the last few days.
=========
"Starting this fall, eligible items paid with PayPal on eBay.com will be covered by PayPal Buyer Protection for the full purchase price and original shipping costs and at no additional cost. There will no longer be a coverage limit."
...yeah....I have faith in that.
Correct, and I will also email them at auction closing to let them know thats available to them.
screw ebay
<< <i>There is nothing that can stop a seller from accepting money orders. They just cannot communicate with the buyer that they do first. If a buyer wins and asks the seller if he can pay with a Money Order then the seller can accept the money order. >>
So if this is the case, why is Ebay trying to convert things, with saying they are taking away paper payments? Can you tell me, leias, since you seem to be one of Ebay's bigger supporters on this board? It couldn't possibly be for them to make more money off of sellers, with their little brother Paypal, now could it? Hmm....
With the Ebay system allowing loopholes for paper payments, it's like asking the police if you can speed ahead of time, so that way you will not be fined if you get caught speeding. It's all outright b.s.
Other sites do not even really offer the loophole you use their payment system or its tough stuff.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>There's one reason and one reason only why Ebay is prohibiting mailed payments and it has NOTHING to do with enhancing "buyer confidence" (what a farce that is): they want their Paypal cut, simple as that. They are making all these changes hoping to bolster a corporation whose stock is in the TOILET the last three years (it has lost more than half its value over that span), and they believe these ridiculous changes are going to help turn that around? LOL! >>
Exactly!
Leias, keep on defending Ebay. You obviously don't see what's really going on, or maybe you do, and just don't want to admit it.
Just like everyone keeps saying Ebay is banning mailed payment. That is not true. They are making it harder for sellers to accept them and that is their right.
I have been Paypal only since June of 2007, so that part does not affect my business one bit. The other changes though do and several I do not agree with at all like the feedback issue.
You tell me to get my fact straight GET YOURS..
<< <i>
<< <i>There's one reason and one reason only why Ebay is prohibiting mailed payments and it has NOTHING to do with enhancing "buyer confidence" (what a farce that is): they want their Paypal cut, simple as that. They are making all these changes hoping to bolster a corporation whose stock is in the TOILET the last three years (it has lost more than half its value over that span), and they believe these ridiculous changes are going to help turn that around? LOL! >>
Exactly!
Leias, keep on defending Ebay. You obviously don't see what's really going on, or maybe you do, and just don't want to admit it.
who really cares?
I know I do not want to go back to the way it was in the 80s with paying full Beckett book value for the limited amount of cards that I found that fit my needs, and no real outlet to sell anything extra I had besides the small pocket of people at the local shop.
So what, if you can make something better then do it, but please stop whining and moaning about how you are getting screwed, when eBay has been one of the best things to happen to card collectors.
Many people do, both collectors and sellers, that's who. Of course, Ebay has the right to make whatever changes they deem fit. That is their right as a corporation, but we also have a right to object and complain, too.
It's also a ridiculous notion to suggest that by objecting to these new changes that the hobby will suddenly be hurled back to the '80s where collectors paid full Becket value for cards. PSA, for one, also didn't exist back then. Talk about hyperbole, LOL!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>who really cares?
Many people do, both collectors and sellers, that's who. Of course, Ebay has the right to make whatever changes they deem fit. That is their right as a corporation, but we also have a right to object and complain, too.
It's also a ridiculous notion to suggest that by objecting to these new changes that the hobby will suddenly be hurled back to the '80s where collectors paid full Becket value for cards. PSA, for one, also didn't exist back then. Talk about hyperbole, LOL! >>
I am not saying that it will be, what I am saying is that everyone sounds like a bunch of ungrateful spoiled whining kids. Deal with it people, it is not that hard. You know how cheap it is to run a business on eBay against brick and mortar??? Get a grip, people do not know that they have it so good. Some of their changes are stupid, but in the over all scheme of things it is a lot better that what came before it.
I don't equate voicing objections or complaints as "crying" and "whining." In America, people have the right to voice their opinions on a particular topic and this is no different, IMO, and in fact, is a healthy discourse.
I also find it a bit ironic that you chastise others for voicing opinions, while you've been on here day and night over the last few days posting over and over again on every thread that even alludes to this topic. If you want to play the role of Ebay Defender that's fine, but chastising others for voicing their opinions is somewhat hypocritical, IMHO.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> Excatly Ebay is going to do what they are going to do for their own reasons, your crying and whining is not gonna change a thing. Change is part of life you adapt or you don't plain and simple. Fact is the buyers will still be on Ebay regardless of if there are more or less sellers.
I don't equate voicing objections or complaints as "crying" and "whining." In America, people have the right to voice their opinions on a particular topic and this is no different, IMO, and in fact, is a healthy discourse.
I also find it a bit ironic that you chastise others for voicing opinions, while you've been on here day and night over the last few days posting over and over again on every thread that even alludes to this topic. If you want to play the role of Ebay Defender that's fine, but chastising others for voicing their opinions is somewhat hypocritical, IMHO. >>
Instead of whining why don't you come up with a solution if you hate it so much. That is what made America great, not complaining like a spoiled teenager. I do not like a lot of the changes either, and am not going to defend them for it. I just find it funny that so many people are bashing eBay, speaking about how evil it is while at the same time enjoying its benefits.
And it's not crying when people disagree with Ebay's new rip system. It's stating disagreement. Leias, just the other day you made up a thread "whining" and "crying" about not being paid for some auctions, correct? Why so contradicting all the time?
Sure, buyers will still be on Ebay, but the quality of product for sale will suffer. Clearly, it already has in a lot of areas.
You must have difficulty understanding the English language, as you have failed again to grasp the point of my post. Voicing an opinion or objecting about a particular topic or policy is not whining. And the whole "this is what makes America great" thing is laughable (sounds like a Ford trucks commercial), and just another example of your use of hyperbole in a weak attempt to present your point. As I stated previously (if you bothered to read), Ebay has the right to implement whatever changes they deem fit, but this is a message board where opinions are voiced, and if you can't voice your opinion here, where can you? Of course, sellers will adapt to these changes. I'd say very few sellers will actually quit or boycott ebay over this issue, but come on down from the high horse for a moment, and try to remember this is a message board.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> Excatly Ebay is going to do what they are going to do for their own reasons, your crying and whining is not gonna change a thing. Change is part of life you adapt or you don't plain and simple. Fact is the buyers will still be on Ebay regardless of if there are more or less sellers.
I don't equate voicing objections or complaints as "crying" and "whining." In America, people have the right to voice their opinions on a particular topic and this is no different, IMO, and in fact, is a healthy discourse.
I also find it a bit ironic that you chastise others for voicing opinions, while you've been on here day and night over the last few days posting over and over again on every thread that even alludes to this topic. If you want to play the role of Ebay Defender that's fine, but chastising others for voicing their opinions is somewhat hypocritical, IMHO. >>
Bingo!
<< <i>I hated sending MOs, but I always did when I had no choice. >>
yep me too.
Sorry I disagree.
I just got sick of people whining like the world was ending over this.
My only point is that eBay revolutionized the online card selling market and we gained the benefit. So I am not really going to have a fit when they change their business model.
If someone came with out with one that worked better I would be all over it.
that is all.
Have a goodnight and a plesant tomorrow
/s/ JackWESQ
<< <i>I email DSL Sports and Just Collect essentially asking (very nicely) what are you going to do now. (They only accept checks and money orders.) I haven't received a response, nor do I expect one.
/s/ JackWESQ >>
I thought just collect took paypal,
I have actually had a money order get lost en route to DSL Sports before, and actually paid for an item twice before receiving it, so I am interested to see how they respond.