John Quincy Adams edge lettering anomaly

TwoSides2aCoin

What would cause this problem in the middle coin's edge lettering.

BECOKA

My guess is a loose collar and the coin rotated between punches.

adamlaneus

Is it my imagination, or is the edge lettering on the Prez Dollars the lowest quality edge lettering ever used on a circulating coin?

I've seen lettering and non-reeded designs on a few other sorts of coins so far, especially french gold and mexican silver. It seems well done. Perfect, in fact.

Prez Dollars seem to suffer from high speed mass production that can barely punch the letters in a readable manner.

Looking for the year is crazy to do; difficult. You just need to look at the president and remember which year it was minted. The mint mark, unfortunately, is very small on that edge. I wish they would just use a punch on the reverse for the mintmark.

Gemineye

Is this the quality we get for the 21st century..???..If it cost the Mint six cents to make each coin dollar give us decent edge lettering please...

lordmarcovan

Hm. Interesting. I just got three JQA dollars in change at a SC convenience store yesterday, to my astonishment. (The clerk asked if I wanted them and I said sure. I suspect she was relieved to rid her drawer of them). These were the only Prez bucks I have received since the one time I got a George Washington the month those came out. I was tickled to see some in circulation, moreso because I am a descendant of JQA (and John Adams, of course).

Can't say my esteemed ancestor was that handsome a fella, though. Kinda scary lookin'.

I'll have to check the edges on those.

Cool find you have there, even if it just turns out to be poor minting quality versus something worth a premium.

tahoe98

.....gotta say, i think the edge lettering is one of the biggest design blunders EVER!!!!

FredWeinberg

Hard to tell exactly from your scans, but that
middle coin looks like it's been 'bumped' up
against another coin, and either the "O" from
a letter or the date has pressed against your
coin.

If the 'extra' lettering is raised, that would be
the explaination.

If it's incused, then yes = it's an anomaly.

Until someone gets to literally stick their nose
into the Edge Lettering machine, and see
exactly how it operates, we can only speculate
as to what causes the jamming, the wide spacing
of letters on some coins, etc.

Most 'different' edge lettering types that are found
are damaged from contact with other coins after
they go thru the E.L. operation.

Hope this helps a little bit....

smokincoin

<< <i>Until someone gets to literally stick their nose
into the Edge Lettering machine, and see
exactly how it operates, we can only speculate
as to what causes the jamming, the wide spacing
of letters on some coins, etc. >>


I don't knowwww. Sounds a little painfull to me, but I've heard of crazier things.

TrustNo1

<< <i> I was tickled to see some in circulation, moreso because I am a descendant of JQA (and John Adams, of course).



>>

fill us in

derryb

coin got jammed in edge lettering machine. in some cases this crunches letters together and creates a nice long empty space about 180 degrees out from the jam mark. if so, brings a nice litte premium on ebay (people collect just about anything).

tahoe98

<< <i>

<< <i> I was tickled to see some in circulation, moreso because I am a descendant of JQA (and John Adams, of course).



>>

fill us in >>





......let's see some id....

TwoSides2aCoin

Thank you folks....
Where might I send this for further analysis ? Fred W ? PCGS ?

TwoSides2aCoin

Cert Verification #: 14491765
PCGS Coin #: 394661
Date, mintmark: 2008-P
Denomination: $1
Variety: John Quincy Adams Position A
Minor Variety:
Mint Error:
Pedigree: Edge Damaged
Country: The United States of America
Grade: Genuine (98 - Damage or Tooling)
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Interesting assessment in a genuine holder.