Prussian Gold / Gold from Israel
adamlaneus
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I'm back from the Fremont Elks Lodge Coin Show. I was bad, but in a good way! I went over budget by 150% and I was happy as I did it! (I set my budget low, but also meant to treat myself)
World gold coins are the greatest things ever invented (until I discover talers).
This coin is in an old style NGC holder.
It has a particularly warm gold color, not only due to copper content, but it has a nice surface as well.
Your task, if you so desire, is to Guess The Grade!!!
I find the feather-pin-feather-pin pattern of the eagle to be very distinctive. I think it is mostly austria, but aren't there some nearby countries that also pick up on this design? And what about the two headed monster eagle? So much to learn!!!
World gold coins are the greatest things ever invented (until I discover talers).
This coin is in an old style NGC holder.
It has a particularly warm gold color, not only due to copper content, but it has a nice surface as well.
Your task, if you so desire, is to Guess The Grade!!!
I find the feather-pin-feather-pin pattern of the eagle to be very distinctive. I think it is mostly austria, but aren't there some nearby countries that also pick up on this design? And what about the two headed monster eagle? So much to learn!!!
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Edited to say - if that chatter is on the holder, I'd bump my guess to 64.
I'd say the old NGC holder said MS63.
What's it say on the holder?
Edit: Forgot to mention that's a wonderful example.
Would look swell in MY German Empire type set
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Man you've been busy.
Another nice addition and as always great photos.
First a little correction .... This coin is a German States - Prussia - 10 Marks, not Austrian
The reverse is an imperial crown above an eagle wearing the collar of the Order of the Black Eagel and on the eagle's breast is a shield bearing the Hohenzollern Arms.
I'll guess the grade at MS64
All i'm trying to do right now is stick to one gold coin per country, so as long as don't get too mixed up, i'm okay.
This is IN an NGC slab, I did not (and will not) crack it out.
According to the Sample Slabs website, it's between the NGC 8.x and NGC 19.x series slabs. Beige label.
It's sort of a small coin, a tad larger than the size of a US Quarter Eagle (or a dime). The photograph I show you is 'punishing' and reveals all.
I'd guess 64 - 65.
The Austrian eagle looks similare except like the Russian version
it has two heads one facing left the other right - I've no idea on
the significance.
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I guess it is 9pm eastern time.
I'll tell you what. I'll wait 30 more minutes, maybe a few more folks will guess, then i'll post the answer. I have to photograph the slab or folks will not believe me. Nobody has gotten it yet.
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Don
I love the color on this piece.
I would not have seen it, but it was sitting at the side of a display case full of your typical silver commems, US gold, investment grade coins, etc. It was bundled with three other slabs by a rubber band, poor thing. All of the US coins were on display; this little unwanted thing was at the side.
I asked to see it and found that there were three of them. One was a smaller piece that did not appeal to me. The others were an 1872 and an 1873 10 marks piece. The 1873 was the one I got, as it had a more consistent, warmer surface. The 1872 was more prooflike and had less regularity in the color of the surface; it had warm patches rather than being warm all over. The general feeling of the 1873 coin was far more pleasing to me. That's my criteria for buying a coin. Eye candy, not rarity.
At $200, I was tempted to purchase both! But I chose the one I liked more and moved on.
It is a good lesson...if your are intrigued by something in a display case...even a slab hidden by another slab...you can always ask. I often pass by. I'm glad I did not this time.
You never know what you will find. Nobody loves world gold coins in the US and I think that is great!!! Total impulse buy.
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Nobody loves world gold coins in the US and I think that is great!!! Total impulse buy. >>
Your mostly right!
But I wouldn't say nobody
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can't say i agree with the grade though. NGC and PCGS seemed to have been shipped nearly a hoard of these a few years back, and many that have I seen from both services appear to be overgraded for some reason.
I have an NGC MS67 that looks a nice 65, and a PCGS MS65 that I had had blatant wear on it. I returned it under grade review, and it got the AU58 that it deserved. I do love the look of these, especially since all i've seen are unmolested and have a nice warm patina.
nice coin!
But at $200, I don't feel the need to know the exact numeric grade. All I want to see is a pleasing coin.
This is one reason why I avoid the truly rare coins that have giant price differences in just one numeric grade. Unless I can assure myself that the grade is absolutely correct, there is a Giant Fear of overpaying.
I would say that the two most familiar series to me is the US Gold Half Eagle and the US Gold Eagle. I would not dare second guess a professional grader on those series. And at the same time I distrust the numeric grade on a slab. That is a weird duality born of not wanting to get ripped off.
Fortunately, there are plenty of pleasing coins for my milquetoast collection in the safe 'cheapness' zone.
Once in a while, I see an expensive coin which is Obviously Worth It. The little number on the slab becomes meaningless to me once a serious premium is being asked. I guess I am just horribly, economically fearful by nature.
Gosh I love world coins. Guess what is coming in next week... for (you guessed it) close enough to melt to suit me...
Nice coins. I've got a 1873 Prussia NGC MS67 10M as well (anybody got the pop report on these?). I really like the Israel 20L. The reverse? is so plain but that makes cool IMO.
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Don
Yours is the only one grade MS67 Hus. That is according to NGC's pop report. It is an 1873B correct?
If it is an 1873A then 375 in MS67 and 1 in MS68
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Don
I also just had a quick look at my European Gold Coins Guide Book By Hanz Schlumberger. Interestingly there is a variety? for 1872 A 10M ,1873 A 10M and 1875 A 10M. "The so called Julius Tower pieces were never placed into circulation because after minting a defect was discovered and the issues were held at the Treasury vaults (Julius Tower). After the World War 1 the coins were turned over to the Allies."
I wonder what the "defect" was?
This unusual coin has tons of luster. I tried to get the 'squiggliest' luster lines that I could with my lighting.
When I illuminate the spots with lots of light, one can see that the reddish spots are indigo in the center.
Graded at MS-67 in an ANACS holder, this is a very nice item indeed!
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Looks just like Friedrich III of Prussia