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Rookie needs expert opinion

I need your thoughts on this. I've only submitted 14 cards to PSA, so I'm still green. I'm very familiar with their grading rubrics, so my choices for submission have come back as I expected 13 out of 14 times. It's this 14th card that leaves me baffled. Below are two links (you'll probably have to copy and paste them into your browser). The first one is a hi-res scan of this card (52 Bowman Large Football, #15 Leon Hart) with the grade erased via Photoshop. I realize scans do not tell the whole truth, but I can assure you that there are no creases of any sort. Under a magnifying glass, the card is as clean as it looks in the scan. Go to the top URL and guess a realistic range of grade possibilities. Then go to the bottom URL to see the actual grade. I hope most of you agree with PSA, so I can move on. If not, what would you do? Thanks in advance for your time.

Scan with grade erased:
http://idisk.mac.com/tschlagel/Public/HartUnGraded.jpg

Scan with actual grade:
http://idisk.mac.com/tschlagel/Public/HartGraded.jpg

Comments

  • links need username & password
    Larry
  • Thanks Larry. Try them now.

    Terre
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    I was going to guess 7.5. Shows how little I know!
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    There's a crease above the word "teams" on the back. I think a crease makes it a 5 or less, not sure why it's a 4 and not a 5.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    There's a crease or a wrinkle on the back.

    Looking at the reverse picture of the card, look down the right hand border. Look for the top line of text that says "unbeaten teams" and directly to the right of "am" in "teams" you'll see it, a horizontal wrinkle/crease going maybe 1/2 of an inch into the card.




    Also, it looks like there's something going on on the left border of the front of the card, where the top of Hart's sholder meets the black border.
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  • Thanks, you guys are awesome. I see it now. Thanks. I have to agree with you. Upon close inspection of the front, I can even see it there as well. Thought I had looked at this card with a fine tooth comb. Well worth asking the forum before I make a fool out of my self with PSA. I've got a lot to learn. Thanks again.

    Terre
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "........Thought I had looked at this card with a fine tooth comb. ..."

    /////////////////////////////

    I can't count the number of 10s I have submitted that
    came back 5s because of the micro-wrinkle/crease issue.

    It is the most disgusting of all possible results, to me.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • nice card regardless, but it should still be 5 worthy.

    welcome aboard.

    and + for using"rubrics" in a sentence!
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They use halogen lights to spot imperfections, therefore you should too. some stuff like that is only visible under certain conditions.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They use halogen lights to spot imperfections, therefore you should too. some stuff like that is only visible under certain conditions. >>



    Details on this?
    -- Ryan Bell
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Thanks to all of you. You're a great group. Thanks for the education.
  • The crease makes it hard to call it anything higher than a 4
    -Rome is Burning

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