I AM RIPPING MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

perkdog · July 31, 2008 10:54AM

Oh my freaking horror am I STEAMING ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All week I been watching this gorgeous 1952 Bowman Large PSA 7 Elroy Hirsch that is insanely tough to find- well I watch it right down to 1 minute ( the auction was at $191 ) and punch in my $500 bid and the seller has me blocked! I have no idea why or who this seller is, my ebay handle is "101paulp" I have a 144 rating at 100%- I have to members that negged me back in 2005 - my fault BTW I had no clue what I was doing- but since then I pay immediately after the auction ends via pay pal or money order the next day.

I AM BEYOND ANGRY RIGHT NOW

Sorry but I need to vent to some people who understand- the girlfriend cannot understand what the big deal is!

perkdog · July 31, 2008 10:55AM

Oh and the card ended up selling for the $191

CDsNuts · July 31, 2008 10:55AM

That's crazy. Email the guy and tell him you tried to put in a $500 bid.

OAKESY25 · July 31, 2008 10:57AM

yeah email and see what he says.. let him know what he lost too

Bosox1976 · July 31, 2008 10:58AM

Buy it from the auction winner for $250. Don't show him this thread though.

perkdog · July 31, 2008 11:00AM

Lee thats the second thing I did after the auction ended and asked why I was blocked and told him he prolly cost himself a few hundred bucks-- the first thing was almost punching holes in the walls!

I cant see the guy not honoring the sale to the lucky person that won it- I cant even think of him trying to explain to the buyer this story.

rexvos · July 31, 2008 11:03AM

that stinks.

I feel for ya. do some revenge buying, that always helps me feel a little better.

TJMAC · July 31, 2008 11:05AM

Perk, sorry to hear you missed out on a great card. I have never had that happen, but I have bid a few seconds too late before I started sniping. It sucks, but on the bright side you will make a great purchase that will take your mind off it.

Overrated · July 31, 2008 11:07AM

That to bad ! somebody clowned you.

lawnmowerman · July 31, 2008 11:10AM

Sorry Paul, that sucks.

perkdog · July 31, 2008 11:10AM

NEVER will I ever wait until the last minute like that again. HARD lessons learned here, I will throw a garbage bid up on day one from now on- believe that!

storm888 · July 31, 2008 11:10AM

ALOT of "friend-of-friend" BBL lists have been trading hands, lately.

My fashion and electronic lists are WAY over 3K names. Most came from other sellers.

My collectible list is much smaller because I have mostly compiled it myself.

Somebody has a commercial list of folks who have left NEGs after May 19. I will look
for the link and post it. It's $10 per thousand names, and it's categorized.

perkdog · July 31, 2008 11:12AM

<< ALOT of "friend-of-friend" BBL lists have been trading hands, lately.

My fashion and electronic lists are WAY over 3K names. Most came from other sellers.

My collectible list is much smaller because I have mostly compiled it myself.

Somebody has a commercial list of folks who have left NEGs after May 19. I will look
for the link and post it. It's $10 per thousand names, and it's categorized. >>

Storm check out my feedback- I have NEVER left a neg on anyone-ever! This cant be some type of payback- every seller I have been involved with has been paid up and given positive feedback from me!

hofautos · July 31, 2008 11:12AM

bummer...i have had that happen to me before, but it wasn't that big of a deal in my case...sounds like you really wanted that one.

PS - your subject line made me think you were "ripping wax like crazy" LOL

I would take the other guys advice and contact the bidder and offer him 250-300

grote15 · July 31, 2008 11:25AM

I'm sorry to hear this, perk. That is beyond frustrating. Wonder if the seller can shed some light on this?

70chip · July 31, 2008 11:27AM

That stinks, sounds like a gorgeous card. Try contacting the winner and see if he will sell. Best of luck.

JeffD27177 · July 31, 2008 11:27AM

I've been on ebay since 2000 with 100% feedback and lost out on some snipes recently because of being blocked. After it happened a couple times with a few different sellers I looked into it, and it was because my PayPal and ebay account were not linked. I've been using PayPal for as long as I've been on ebay and I'm verified and all that, but there was some step that I didn't do to link the two accounts officially. Some sellers have PayPal required auctions that block bidders that don't have their PayPal id's linked to their ebay account.

I never noticed any overt indication that the auctions were PayPal bidders only, but was finally able to link the two and have not been blocked once since.

Not sure if that's what the problem was, but maybe it's worth looking into?

Regardless I know how it feels to have snipes fail, so sorry for your loss. Better luck next time!

storm888 · July 31, 2008 11:30AM

"...Wonder if the seller can shed some light on this? .."

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Since perk appears to have had no controversy, the seller may not even know/recall
how the name got added.

I do not know/remember the reason for 99% of my BBL names.

storm888 · July 31, 2008 11:36AM

"...I looked into it, and it was because my PayPal and ebay account were not linked. I've been using PayPal for as long as I've been on ebay and I'm verified and all that, but there was some step that I didn't do to link the two accounts officially. Some sellers have PayPal required auctions that block bidders that don't have their PayPal id's linked to their ebay account."

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Likely BINGO.

The PP accounts have been getting "unlinked," lately. They
have to be put back in manually.

The seller preferences that blocked perk likely had to do with
a PP requirment, and NOT with a personal block.

baseballfan · July 31, 2008 11:46AM

that stinks, i hope you find out why you were blocked and let them know it cost them some coin

magellan · July 31, 2008 12:05PM

<< "...I looked into it, and it was because my PayPal and ebay account were not linked. I've been using PayPal for as long as I've been on ebay and I'm verified and all that, but there was some step that I didn't do to link the two accounts officially. Some sellers have PayPal required auctions that block bidders that don't have their PayPal id's linked to their ebay account." >>

Had the same thing happen last week, never any warning that they weren't linked. Luckily it wasn't a huge card to me.

Tvac897 · July 31, 2008 12:08PM

lol good luck with the ripping

perkdog · July 31, 2008 12:11PM

This has to be the reason, I have never had this problem before though- I use paypal for EVERY auction I win that accepts pay-pal, as a matter of fact I just used it like 2 days ago without any issues.

Well after going to the store and buying a can of Kodiak and shoveling an enormous dip in I still dont feel any better but I appreaciate those of you who looked into it- and thanks for understanding my sincere RAGE.

SDSportsFan · July 31, 2008 12:14PM

Well, I was gonna say the seller must be a Yankee or Colt fan

, but I looked up the auction on ebay and found out it's Poway Sports Cards in San Diego CA. I've dealt with him once ('51 Bowman Mantle), and he seemed like a decent guy. Send him an email and ask him what's up. Hopefully, you'll be able to straighten him out

Steve

bsidegrve · July 31, 2008 12:39PM

Perkdog sorry to hear that! till you find out what went wrong contact the auction winner and try and work out a deal for the card.

Its bad enough that the auctions seem to be getting fewer and fewer on vintage football, let alone when you find a gem this happens. I hope you manage to get it.

perkdog · July 31, 2008 12:43PM

<< Perkdog sorry to hear that! till you find out what went wrong contact the auction winner and try and work out a deal for the card.

Its bad enough that the auctions seem to be getting fewer and fewer on vintage football, let alone when you find a gem this happens. I hope you manage to get it. >>

Thanks Mark, its funny you mentioned the lack of Vintage Football auctions , the winning buyer JRMazzeo started a thread on that exact same subject in the set registry forums a few weeks ago LOL, he needs a 7 for his set and has deeeep pockets to boot so in hindsight my $500 bid might not have been good enough anyways.

summerof68 · July 31, 2008 12:52PM

You're not alone Perk, the same thing happened to me two days ago. I was waiting all week to snipe on a $200 vintage gai wax pak. I had a 10% discount coupon from ebay that I didn't use on two previous auctions that I won that same week because I wanted to use this coupon on the most expensive of the three auctions. I threw on the snipe with 10 seconds left and was blocked. My coupon also expired at midnight that same day so I never was able to make use of it!! I was doubly teed off to say the least. I knew who the seller was because he lived 30 miles from me and about 3 months earlier I wanted to bid on an auction of his but in the listing he had a picture of a '76 cello pak but in both the title and description he said it was a wax pak. Also the shipping price was listed in two areas of the listing with one price being $3 higher than the other. I remember there were one or two other less important but noteable discrepances in the listing as well. I emailed him informing him of these discrepances and told him I couldn't bid on the auction until these inconsistancies were rectified and that these items, if not fixed, could result in his auction selling for less than it would otherwise as it would discourage other potential bidders. I remember he didn't respond to my email nor did he even change his listing. I sent the same email two more times with no response. It's obvious to me now that he took my suggestions as being critical and not being helpful as I had intended. So after I was blocked two days ago I immediately knew what happened and contacted him again and told him the situation and that my email months ago was not sent in a critical vain but in a constructive one. He returned my email today and it simply said, "you were blocked for a reason. we will not accept your bids." Needless to say Perk there are also some real A-holes out there. Worth mentioning is the fact that this seller has received 201 negatives in the last six months. Yes that's right, 201 negatives in the last six months--I guess he has pissed off more people than just myself!!!

perkdog · July 31, 2008 1:05PM

I know Im not alone and believe me this is small stuff compared to what many people have had happen with Ebay- getting ripped off ect.. it is what it is and Ive accepted it. I dont think the seller had any reason to block me as Im sure it was a glich somewhere, again its small beans compared to never receiving a big ticket item or getting scammed and having to deal with that garbage so I need to just put it past me and move on.

Thanks again guys,

Paul

gumbyfan · July 31, 2008 2:17PM

<< lol good luck with the ripping >>

T-bag = idiot.

Post25 · July 31, 2008 9:28PM

<< I've been on ebay since 2000 with 100% feedback and lost out on some snipes recently because of being blocked. After it happened a couple times with a few different sellers I looked into it, and it was because my PayPal and ebay account were not linked. I've been using PayPal for as long as I've been on ebay and I'm verified and all that, but there was some step that I didn't do to link the two accounts officially. Some sellers have PayPal required auctions that block bidders that don't have their PayPal id's linked to their ebay account. >>

The same thing happened to me when I was bidding on a rickey Henderson PSA 9 rookie. I will not let that happen again.

julen23 · July 31, 2008 11:35PM

PM me next time,

i have street credibility you wouldn't believe.

J

Leiascards · July 31, 2008 11:45PM

Evidently there is some gllitch with Paypal and Ebay. I have had a couple of buyers recently tell me that they are blocked because of their Paypal account not being linked. I require buyers to have a Paypal account.

CDsNuts · July 31, 2008 11:59PM

Probably the next logical step to ebay making all buyers pay via paypal.

Leiascards · August 1, 2008 12:49AM

<< Probably the next logical step to ebay making all buyers pay via paypal. >>

Probaly so, but it seems funny that sellers who have the block set up to block members without linked Paypal accounts are the ones who are having the trouble.

Ebay won't be able to totally force Paypal only on sellers, but they can make it more and more difficult for those who do not do so. Next step will be requiring all sellers to take Paypal in addition to other payments. They already do this on sellers who have registered in the past 2 years.

storm888 · August 1, 2008 3:41AM

"..Ebay won't be able to totally force Paypal only on sellers, .."

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Looks like they will use a carrot instead of a stick.

The likely prospective offer in 2009:

Sellers who offer PayPal as the ONLY payment option, will win a prize:

"NPBs who cannot produce evidence of having made a PayPal payment,
will NOT be allowed to leave feedback."

If that sounds radical..... eCrater has had that policy for a long time.

.......

If that scheme does not achieve the desired results, EBAY is fully prepared
to test the anti-trust issues. The more I study the case, the more sure I
become that there are actually NO anti-trust issues.

I AM RIPPING MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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