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antiques roadshow 1958 unopened cello packs !!
gil
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Here is the link from the appraisal they have (had) 312 unopened packs ! this was also 2006
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Here is the transcript from the appraisal.
Appraisal Transcript: GUEST: My father had a small grocery store and one year at Christmas decided to sell toys for kids. And he had a collection of football cards, Lionel trains and just a lot of different toys. And when he passed away, my mother put these away for future grandchildren.
APPRAISER: So what we're talking about here are unopened packs of 1958 Topps football cards.
GUEST: I believe so.
APPRAISER: And now, I know I'm the type of kid, when I have an unopened pack-- at least when I did-- I'd have to open it. I couldn't keep it. So the fact that these survived is pretty interesting.
GUEST: My mom had them, like, in a shoebox, and then when we acquired them, we put them in a safe deposit box, because we didn't want to open them.
APPRAISER: Well, these are what is known as cello packs, because they're wrapped in cellophane. They had more cards in them than the regular wax packs that kids would buy for a penny or a nickel. These had more cards in them, and subsequently, they were more expensive. Today, finding unopened anything from the 1950s is exceedingly rare.
GUEST: Really?
APPRAISER: Now, I see we have some condition issues on a couple of these. Sometimes the cellophane, over the years, is cracked and opened, and that happens. But there are others that are just...
GUEST: Pristine.
APPRAISER: Yeah, they're pristine. And that again is amazing that they've somehow survived all this time. When people collect unopened packs, they look for a number of things. Condition, of course, is paramount. But also, who's on the pack, because when you're dealing with a cello pack, you can see who's on top and who's on the bottom. In this sampling here, we have Johnny Unitas.
GUEST: Right.
APPRAISER: You know, you don't get much better than that guy. And then you have Bart Starr, another star. So pieces like that have a premium.
GUEST: Right.
APPRAISER: Now, how many of these do you have?
GUEST: We have 312 packs.
APPRAISER: 312 packs.
GUEST: Correct.
APPRAISER: Well, I would say that constitutes a find. In sports collecting terms, that's like a Holy Grail type thing. Football cards are very, very collectible, especially 1958. There's all these great stars in the set. If I were to estimate one single pack at auction... okay, I would estimate it between $500 and $1,000 for one pack.
GUEST: Oh, my.
APPRAISER: So what we have here on the table is at least $3,000 to $6,000.
GUEST: Wow.
APPRAISER: Now, 1958 had Jim Brown's rookie card in it. If you have one with Jim Brown in it, that could go for several thousand dollars.
GUEST: Oh, my.
APPRAISER: So we're talking about a heck of a find.
GUEST: Yes.
APPRAISER: And I know all the card collectors out there who are watching this are salivating, you know. This is a dream come true. Thanks for coming today.
GUEST: Thank you so much. You're kidding.
APPRAISER: I'm not kidding.
GUEST (chuckling): Oh, my goodness. Wow. I didn't know what I had
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Here is the transcript from the appraisal.
Appraisal Transcript: GUEST: My father had a small grocery store and one year at Christmas decided to sell toys for kids. And he had a collection of football cards, Lionel trains and just a lot of different toys. And when he passed away, my mother put these away for future grandchildren.
APPRAISER: So what we're talking about here are unopened packs of 1958 Topps football cards.
GUEST: I believe so.
APPRAISER: And now, I know I'm the type of kid, when I have an unopened pack-- at least when I did-- I'd have to open it. I couldn't keep it. So the fact that these survived is pretty interesting.
GUEST: My mom had them, like, in a shoebox, and then when we acquired them, we put them in a safe deposit box, because we didn't want to open them.
APPRAISER: Well, these are what is known as cello packs, because they're wrapped in cellophane. They had more cards in them than the regular wax packs that kids would buy for a penny or a nickel. These had more cards in them, and subsequently, they were more expensive. Today, finding unopened anything from the 1950s is exceedingly rare.
GUEST: Really?
APPRAISER: Now, I see we have some condition issues on a couple of these. Sometimes the cellophane, over the years, is cracked and opened, and that happens. But there are others that are just...
GUEST: Pristine.
APPRAISER: Yeah, they're pristine. And that again is amazing that they've somehow survived all this time. When people collect unopened packs, they look for a number of things. Condition, of course, is paramount. But also, who's on the pack, because when you're dealing with a cello pack, you can see who's on top and who's on the bottom. In this sampling here, we have Johnny Unitas.
GUEST: Right.
APPRAISER: You know, you don't get much better than that guy. And then you have Bart Starr, another star. So pieces like that have a premium.
GUEST: Right.
APPRAISER: Now, how many of these do you have?
GUEST: We have 312 packs.
APPRAISER: 312 packs.
GUEST: Correct.
APPRAISER: Well, I would say that constitutes a find. In sports collecting terms, that's like a Holy Grail type thing. Football cards are very, very collectible, especially 1958. There's all these great stars in the set. If I were to estimate one single pack at auction... okay, I would estimate it between $500 and $1,000 for one pack.
GUEST: Oh, my.
APPRAISER: So what we have here on the table is at least $3,000 to $6,000.
GUEST: Wow.
APPRAISER: Now, 1958 had Jim Brown's rookie card in it. If you have one with Jim Brown in it, that could go for several thousand dollars.
GUEST: Oh, my.
APPRAISER: So we're talking about a heck of a find.
GUEST: Yes.
APPRAISER: And I know all the card collectors out there who are watching this are salivating, you know. This is a dream come true. Thanks for coming today.
GUEST: Thank you so much. You're kidding.
APPRAISER: I'm not kidding.
GUEST (chuckling): Oh, my goodness. Wow. I didn't know what I had
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<< <i>That is pretty crazy. Each pack is worth a few thousand now. I'm sure she has a few "10's" too. >>
A few thousand? Sounds like a bit much.
Steve
As a footnote Steve Hart at the BBCE currently has on his website a few of these '58 cellos that are now housed in PSA 7 & 8 holders and he is asking between $800 & $900 each--Steve knows how to get top dollar for rare items.