BST boards rant II NPBs - Non Paying Boardmembers

44Magnum · July 30, 2008 2:44AM

I have had two committments to buy one of my items on the B/S/T boards (same item, I relisted it after the first buyer didn't come thru) and both board members turned out to be deadbeats! What's up with that? If you obligate yourself to something, follow through!

Here is the PM from the first buyer:

<< Hi, my name is XXX (XXXX from these forums) and I read your post about your 1969 Topps lot for $75 on the BST forums. I would like to buy this lot. Please me know if I could pay by money order and if not, please let me know what method of payment (PayPal, check, etc) would be best for you. >>

I told him that I would accept his money order.

<< Thank you for your reply. I will send a money order right away. >>

Here is the PM from the second buyer:

<< Could you take $65 delivered for the lot of 1969 topps cards? Let me know >>

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I accepted his offer and told him that I had some 70's as well.

<< Thanks, I will just take the 1969's. I will send payment via paypal tonight. >>

I am not going to name names, but don't commit yourself to something if you don't have the means or intentions to pay! It's just a hassle to edit the item and/or mark it as sold and then have to find out several days later the buyer had no intentions of paying. Anybody else having this problem?

fattymacs · July 30, 2008 2:46AM

If you'll take $65 for that lot of 69 topps PM your address and I'll send payment today.

BobaFett72 · July 30, 2008 2:48AM

Wow,
I have had zero bad transactions thus far. (knock on wood) And no one has ever stiffed me. In fact there are more than a few folks who sent me stuff before I got paid, and I have done the same thing, but thats with people you get to know and do repeat trades with.

Blackborder · July 30, 2008 2:55AM

This thread is worthless without names.

lsutigers1973 · July 30, 2008 2:57AM

I know exactly who you are referring to because I saw his "PM sent" and my first thought was that he would never pay. He was the one user that did not pay for his packs in the BBCE group break last month and never responded to my PM's asking if he had paid yet.

perkdog · July 30, 2008 2:57AM

<< Wow,
I have had zero bad transactions thus far. (knock on wood) And no one has ever stiffed me. In fact there are more than a few folks who sent me stuff before I got paid, and I have done the same thing, but thats with people you get to know and do repeat trades with. >>

julen23 · July 30, 2008 2:57AM

i confess, it's barry.

J

Tvac897 · July 30, 2008 3:11AM

SO who is the mystery scammer

lsutigers1973 · July 30, 2008 3:12AM

<< SO who is the mystery scammer >>

Again, WTH are you talking about? No one mentioned a scammer just a non-payer.

BobaFett72 · July 30, 2008 3:38AM

oh snap! you been Tbagged!

metalmike · July 30, 2008 5:43PM

44Magnum First- you are new. You left out the REST o the story. So what you are saying is 2 Members offered to buy some cards from you. When? Did you e-mail them axing you know, hey bro did you ferget to mail the MO? You say you re-listed it after the first buyer fell thru but you left out Details, man. It makes me concerned when anonymous people come here and talk smack without the facts. Let us know the details keep the names in PM unless it is Daggett like. Mike Horsley Harrison Ohio

metalmike · July 30, 2008 5:49PM

I looked for your BST thread link please.

metalmike · July 30, 2008 5:53PM

Search Results matching the keyword 1969 by author 44Magnum
No search results were found back.

nam812 · July 30, 2008 10:01PM

You didn't look very hard Mike.

1969 cards on the BST

BobaFett72 · July 30, 2008 10:05PM

mike typed in 1869.

as always nice sleuthing Mrs. Fletcher.

Ironmanfan · July 30, 2008 10:12PM

<< mike typed in 1869.

as always nice sleuthing Mrs. Fletcher. >>

Now that is funny!

44Magnum · July 30, 2008 10:27PM

Mike,

I’m not sure what the fact that I am new here has anything to do with it? If the board members that committed themselves to the purchase had any reservations because I was new, then they should have never made the commitment. As you can see from the links, other board members purchased items from me and they were satisfied with the transaction. The first buyer committed to the purchase July 17th saying he would send a money order right away. It never showed. I PM’d him, but never got a response back. After that, I re-listed it. The second board member committed to the purchase on July 27th stating that he would send PayPal that night. He didn’t. No, I did not PM him back. Why bother after a second time? He actually did PayPal yesterday late afternoon (3 days after he said he would and only probably after reading this thread) and stated that he sent PayPal to the wrong email address. However, I refunded his money because another board member had purchased them yesterday early afternoon in the meantime.

I am not sure what you meant by I “left out the rest of the story” or I “left out details.” Please tell me what more details you want? Do you want their names? Sure, I’ll give them to you, but not on the open forum. Just PM me and I have no problems dropping their names.

As far as not being able to find the links, well here you go:

First Listing

Second Listing

Any more questions?

Morgoth · July 30, 2008 11:46PM

Personally 3 days later isn't that much later, and may have just got busy. Remember the BST is not Ebay and most people don't hold each others feet to the fire and expect immediate payments. By not PMing the guy first I think you are as much to blame.

lsutigers1973 · July 31, 2008 12:04AM

First I will say, I have bought a few items from 44magnum and was very pleased, not only with the speed of delivery but the condition of the cards.

Second, like I mentioned before but no one seemed to notice, one of the non-payers he is referring to was also the one deadbeat from the BBCE group break last month.

BobaFett72 · July 31, 2008 12:06AM

Good points LSU.
Something is rotten in Denmark.

mtcards · July 31, 2008 2:43AM

Magnum is in a no win situation here. If he comes on here naming names, he gets beaten up for that. If he comes on not naming names, he gets beat up for that.

Mickey71 · July 31, 2008 3:38AM

It's always a no win situation when you are involved with lazy or unprofessional people. I had a serious issue with "Handyman", other board members had the same problem. He was to send cards to a few board members and it took over a month. All the while he was selling like mad on ebay. He gave excuses of going hunting, Moving to Sweden, also wrote me a refund check that the bank would not accept, had another name on the check, had a spelling error for the name on the check etc. Another board member that lived near him said he was going to beat him up if he didn't complete the transaction, and all of a sudden the cards started arriving in the mail with a date of only a few days before on the post mark- even though he came on the boards and said the cards had been shipped long before. With all of this stuff that was backed up by another board member, I was still unjustly questioned. My position on the whole thing was this with the people who questioned me- I sent payment right away and I could show when the cards were sent and the seller was lying on the boards- how much more did I need to say. Some board members know that this has still left a bad taste in my mouth. I buy expensive Mantle's, Koufax's and other stuff and this involved like $60 in 71 football cards---ridiculous. That person has no place in this hobby.
Mickey71

CDsNuts · July 31, 2008 3:44AM

44Mag- If either of those two guys lives on my street I will beat them up for you.

mkg809 · July 31, 2008 3:58AM

Why can't we all just get along?

Get'em Carol!!

storm888 · July 31, 2008 4:09AM

"Why can't we all just get along?"

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IF a "buyer" changes his mind, ALL he has to do is notify
the seller, and IT'S OVER.

BUYERS: If you change your mind, just tell the seller and say "sorry."

SELLERS: Just let the apologetic "buyer" off the hook.

......

The BST is not EBAY. There is no penalty for changing your mind.
Just be upfront about it, and don't keep stringing it out with false
promises. The drama ONLY becomes a thread when the "buyer"
fails to communicate truthfully and promptly.

CDsNuts · July 31, 2008 4:15AM

44Mag- Sorry, I decided not to beat them up if they live on my street. Please accept my apologies.

prscott933 · July 31, 2008 4:40AM

I bought a taco from Lee once on the BST forum. It was advertised as fresh but arrived with mold and smelled pretty rotten. Thanks a lot Lee for another night that my family had to go without food.

WinPitcher · July 31, 2008 5:33AM

I agree with magnum here.

If you as a buyer decide not to follow through a PM is all it takes.

Don't tell someone you will pay that night then wait 3 days.

Steve

magellan · July 31, 2008 6:57AM

<< bought a taco from Lee once on the BST forum. It was advertised as fresh but arrived with mold and smelled pretty rotten. >>

Lee offered to sell me that same taco but I backed out after a few days.

Blackborder · July 31, 2008 8:08AM

<< 44Mag- Sorry, I decided not to beat them up if they live on my street. Please accept my apologies. >>

Too busy beating up Nam aren't you?

BST boards rant II NPBs - Non Paying Boardmembers

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