Who here is collecting what would be called an overproduced set??

Stingray

I do not mean like mid 70s stuff that some feel might have been overproduced, I mean stuff from the late 80s to 90s stuff. In graded or raw form, either or. I have for some reason have an interest in collecting the 87 Topps BB set. Not to try and get it all graded, maybe just some of the star cards. But I have a renewed interest in this set. It is the set that kind of got me back into buying cards, took a break between 82-86 or around there. But the more I see pictures of cards from this set, the more it seems to grow on me.

fattymacs

You shouldn't have any trouble finding 87 BB, I've got boxes of the stuff, it may even be sorted.

Stingray

<< <i>You shouldn't have any trouble finding 87 BB, I've got boxes of the stuff, it may even be sorted. >>



I know there is tons of it out there, but I like the thought of getting a nice raw set and having it in a binder just to look at every so often.

Post25

For me, its 86 Topps. I always seem to buy boxes of it to rip and have started to accumulate a nice collection of graded stars. Although I just sold my Ripken PSA 10 to pay for an 1955 Topps Ed Mathews for my '55 set. I love the '87 set as well. Nothing wrong with collecting overproduced '80's sets!
Jeff

summerof68

1987 thru 1992 were the years that the sportscard hobby was the rage and at its apex. Production by Topps, Donruss & Fleer was astronomical and still they couldn't keep up with the orders coming in from dealers and private parties. Private parties all across the country purchased business licenses for the sole purpose of buying and hoarding cases of material. I read in Tuff-Stuff that the production levels by topps roughly (doubled) each year from '87 to '90. Donruss was known for and supposedly prided itself on having relatively lower production runs thru '86. But in '87 even they changed their philosophy and opened the flood gates of production. By '89 it seemed there were cardshops on every commercial street in our city. Even the local record store had wax boxes at the register!!
If you want to collect '87 for sentimental reasons then by all means go for it. However if your considering sinking some good money into it you might want to look at '82 & '83 Topps instead as there was far, far much less produced in those years compared to the late 80's and there is a better chance for an increase in your investment. And these two years contain the rookie cards of some big name (classy) players such as Ripken & Gwynn which will always make the sets popular with collectors. '87 has Bonds, Mcgwire, Palmeiro & Canseco--not exactly (classy). Just food for thought.....

fattymacs

"I know there is tons of it out there, but I like the thought of getting a nice raw set and having it in a binder just to look at every so often. "

I understand, I've got a set of 83 Donruss in a binder (I have no clue as to why I put it in a binder) I look through it every so often, binders are cool.

Stingray

This is by no means an investment, just a nice way to enjoy some cards and a good memory. I just wanted to hear stories from others on why they might be collecting some of these sets.

summerof68

As I mentioned if your are collecting for sentimental reasons and the great memories '87 topps brings then by all means go for it. After all that is what this hobby is supposed to be about. I specialize in unopened material and after viewing countless '87 thru '92 cases on ebay over the last 5 years I get a little jittery when I see people (not yourself) looking to invest in these years....

saucywombat

I always thought 88 Fleer was a good looking set.

Wonder what the production runs were for the Glossy Fleer and Topps Tiffany from 87 - 92?

onefasttalon

Stingray... I would deff. fall into that category. I didn't start collecting until '88/'89, so those years of cards have
nastalgic appeal to me. Course, it doesn't help that 90% of Chris Sabo's cards were all within those years as well.

Call me crazy, but I have sets registered for the '89 Donruss, '89 Fleer, and '89 Bowman. All three are at the top,
but have lots of missing cards.

Like you, I'm really not interesting (or crazy enough) to chase the entire set, but would like to have as many of the
stars as possible so long as the price is right.
The one exception is the '89 Bowman... that one I'd like to complete. Not sure why, but it might be my favorite cheapy set
of all time.

The one good thing about the over-produced years... MAN is is cheap to pickup and great to bust watching football on Sundays!

tennesseebanker

I agree there are some nice looking sets from that era even though there were more made than m&m's.
I've got several stacks of monster boxes full of the stuff I have cracked from cases the past couple of years, Some of it I will send for TTM requests and the nicer star cards I keep in a binder labeled 80's star cards. The binder is so full I can hardly close it.
However, I doubt I will ever be able to get rid of the cards even though they are "mint". Unless for some reason the set registry takes off for the 80's decade and people start looking for the crds again. And even then they arent hard to find. I wish I could trade my "mint" 80's cards for some low grade 70's cards, at least i would have some TTM material that I could use.

gameusedhoop

<< <i>The one good thing about the over-produced years... MAN is is cheap to pickup and great to bust watching football on Sundays! >>



Spoken like someone who doesn't have many fantasy football teams. There is no time for card opening when you are trying to follow your local team's game, and the scroll along the bottom of the screen, not to mention instant online updates. Then of course the liquor and messy food have to be added to the equation, I have never had time to open and sort cards, no matter what the price.

hankcaddy

i am doing the 89 topps set in 10's,
it seems no one else is even looking at this set,
there are probably a million raw set out there, but i am having fun with it,
takes up a lot of space though i am about 50% done but still a ways to go.
in the end collect what you have fun with, try not to spend too much and enjoy it.
1987 is a cool set , i am still debating what the next 80's set ii will do,83 is one of my fav's

hank

billwaltonsbeard

1987 Topps baseball packs were the first packs I ever opened. I was 11 in 1987, and I know exactly what the OP means about getting the nostalgic feeling when seeing some of the cards. I remember getting star cards like Mattingly, Strawberry, Boggs, and Clemens was SO exciting! I would spend every dollar I would ever get buying 87 Topps packs at the corner store. I would spend hours sorting them numerically, into teams, back to numerically etc.
Bo Jackson's card was really hot at the time, and whenever me or one of my friends would get one, there would be an immediate trading frenzy.

It's a shame kids today cant experience these things. When there are about a thousand different sets put out every year, I dont think it would be possible for a young person to have any kind of nostalgic memories about a specific set.

lsutigers1973

I have just about finished off a complete 1980's Topps set run raw by busting wax. Probably spent 10x's what it would have cost me to just buy the sets, but it was a lot more fun doing it by opening packs. Probably spent $100 on 1987 Topps wax boxes to make a full set when I could have bought one at any card show or shop for $10-15.

Stingray

That Mattingly card was always one of my favorites from any set, loved the image on his card!!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

*Stands up* Hi, My names Donovan (* in background* Hi Donovan) and I'm addicted to collecting the FF card from a overproduced set.

I too have wanted to pick up all the stars from the 87 Topps set as well. Probally 87 Donruss and 86 Topps as well.

prscott933

I'm collecting 1992 Leaf Black Gold. *bows head in shame*

11235813

I've been known to rip a box of 1992 Upper Deck or 1993 Donruss every now and then.

Love both issues because of the simplicity of the design which highlights the photogrpahy.

MeteoriteGuy

I collect PSA cards that are mostly 1980-1995, the later years more football then baseball. So I guess almost everything I buy was overproduced. I don't really care too much on future value.

Stone193

My 92UD set is a picture no artist could paint!

I'm still going thru 800 ct boxes to find the best cards.

metalmike

I am slowly doing a 2002 Score Select rookies and prospects set 99 card set all autos.This set is in the big books but not in the reg beckett or Tuff stuff. I need 22 more to complete the set but some of the cards have never shown up on Fleabay. The only way to get these was to buy one of those 19.99 multipack boxes from Target and Wallyworld back around 2003 and 2004. One auto card per multipack box as a bonus. Some of the players signed in different color and names i.e. Ryan Freel signed as "freaky" also.



Checklist----------------------------------------------
Description Card #
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Abraham Nunez 1
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Adam Bernero 2
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Adam Pettyjohn 3
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Alex Escobar 4
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Allan Simpson 5
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Andres Torres 6
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Andy Pratt 7
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Bert Snow-Black Aut 8
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Bert Snow-Blue Autograph 8A
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Bill Ortega 9
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Billy Sylvester 10
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Brad Voyles 11
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Brandon Backe 12
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Brent Abernathy 13
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Brian Mallette 14
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Brian Rogers 15
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Cam Esslinger 16
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Carlos Garcia 17
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Carlos Valderrama 18
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Cesar Izturis 19
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Chad Durbin 20
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Chris Baker 21
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Claudio Vargas 22
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Cory Aldridge 23
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Craig Monroe 24
2002 select Rookies and Prospects David Elder 25
2002 select Rookies and Prospects David Brous 26
2002 select Rookies and Prospects David Espinosa 27
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Derrick Lewis 28
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Elio Serrano 29
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Elpidio Guzman 30
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Eric Cyr 31
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Eric Valent 32
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Erik Bedard 33
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Esix Snead 34
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Francis Beltran 35
2002 select Rookies and Prospects George Perez 36
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Gene Altman 37
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Greg Miller 38
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Horacio Ramirez 39
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jason Hart 40
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jason Karnuth 41
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jason Romano 42
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jeff Deardorff 43
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jeremy Affeldt 44
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jeremy Lambert 45
2002 select Rookies and Prospects John Ennis 46
2002 select Rookies and Prospects John Grabow 47
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jose Cueto 48
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jose Mieses 49
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Jose Ortiz 50
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Josh Pearce 51
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Josue Perez 52
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Juan Diaz 53
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Juan Pena 54
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Keith Ginter 55
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Kevin Frederick 56
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Kevin Joseph 57
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Kevin Olsen 58
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Kris Keller 60
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Larry Bigbie 61
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Les Walrond 62
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Luis Pineda 63
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Luis Rivas 64
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Luis Rivera 65
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Luke Hudson 66
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Marcus Giles 67
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Mark Ellis 68
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Martin Vargas 69
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Matt Childers 70
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Matt Guerrier 71
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Matt Thornton 72
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Matt White 73
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Mike Penney 74
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Nate Teut 75
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Nick Maness 76
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Orlando Woodards 77
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Paul Phillips 78
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Pedro Feliz 79
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Ramon Vazquez 80
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Raul Chavez 81
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Reed Johnson 82
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Ryan Freel 83
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Ryan Jamison 84
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Ryan Ludwick 85
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Saul Rivera 86
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Steve Bechler 87
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Steve Green 88
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Steve Smyth 89
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Tike Redman 90
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Tom Shearn 91
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Tomas De La Rosa 92
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Tony Cogan 93
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Travis Hafner 94
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Travis Hughes 95
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Wilkin Ruan 96
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Will Ohman 97
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Wilmy Caceras 98
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Wilson Guzman 99
2002 select Rookies and Prospects Winston Abreu 100

Estil

Stingray, if you're wanting a 1987 Topps set, why not just buy this one on BBCE (he's got TONS of factory sets)?

1987 Topps set for just $20

And I must say that is quite a concidence you mention getting one "just to look at in a binder", because when I first went to Lexington in Fall 1999 (to go to the greatest unversity ever!! ), one of the first things I did was go to the local baseball card store (Baseball Card Warehouse on the SE side I think; hope it's still open). I could not believe all the awesome factory sets this guy had! So the first things I bought was a factory set of 1987 and 1989 Topps. I also wanted one of 1988 but he had none so I had to settle for a hand collated set. And let me tell you something, you have no idea how much fun it was the first time I got to open a complete factory set (yes, I did the 1987 set first) and get to sort all the cards inside (Topps factory sets, even to this day do not come in numerical order) and put them in the binder. And I have no doubt you will enjoy it also.

Needless to say that's how my complete set quest got started.

Stingray

How was the centering on that 87 factory set??

Estil

For Topps factory sets (and to a lesser extent other companies)? MUCH better/more consistent.

TheVon

I started a graded 1988 Score Rookie/Traded set a while ago and then gave up on it. I loved Score when it first came out . . . the see-through packs, the different colors of the cards, the simple design, all the in-action photos! I chose the Rookie/Traded set because I think the orange cards are cool, plus it has Biggio, Alomar, Grace, (and Sabo too!). It's a total waste of money, but I think I'll get back on the bandwagon one day soon and see if I can't focus long enough to make some progress.

Stingray

Agree on the 88 Score set, that was a nice looking set with a nice simple design. Pluse every photo is an action shot.

Estil

<< <i>Agree on the 88 Score set, that was a nice looking set with a nice simple design. Pluse every photo is an action shot. >>



Just be extra careful buying the Score factory sets. Their boxes were much thinner than the other companies so be sure to check the corners of the boxes to make sure none of them are smashed before opening.

metrotheme

There is a discussion going on at baseball fever's boards: http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=79693
about the value of 80's cards. The person who started the thread is adamant about the future value of the cards going up. Most of the people, including myself posted in the thread that the cards are way to available in good condition to ever see a spike in value.

Does anyone here think that there will be a resurgence in the value of these cards as younger collectors get more nostalgic?

Estil

If you combine that along with perhaps enough people getting frustrated with the overproduced stuff and literally throwing it away, then you never know, it just might.

PROMETHIUS88

I did my part in the late 90's to try to help the value of 80's stuff go up. A friend of mine had a nice sports bar and I would take him 3200 count boxes of comonns from mainly 88/89/90. Mixed it up with Topps, Fleer, Donruss and Score. They didn't make great coasters for drinks, but they were ok and great conversation pieces for the customers. Lots of times you would see guys putting them in their pockets or making their wives/girlfriends put a well-known player quitely in their purses. Pretty funny stuff!