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I am sick of the hypocrisy about Barry Bonds, just sick..
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Maybe it isn't hypocrisy, but it certainly is singling out one man!
I first want to say, a cheat is a cheat. I don't care if Bonds broke two records...he cheated just as much/less as all those other guys.
Second, I am so sick of everybody saving all their anger for Barry Bonds and saying they wish he never wears a uniform again, when there is a man named Gary Sheffield still playing!
Who is Gary Sheffield? He is the guy that cheated just as much as Bonds, is as big as a jerk as Bonds, and oh....HE ACTUALLY MADE ERRORS ON PURPOSE IN MLB GAMES SO HE CAN GET TRADED! He did more damage to the integrity of the game than Pete Rose and Barry Bonds combined.
Bonds deserves the same treatment as all those other users got....which is basically nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
The notion of a distraction is kind of odd as well. That is just a cover for signing Bonds because he is notorious. Notorious for doing the same thing all the other guys did...and less than the biggest dirt bag in baseball...Gary SHeffield.
That is all I wanted to say.
I first want to say, a cheat is a cheat. I don't care if Bonds broke two records...he cheated just as much/less as all those other guys.
Second, I am so sick of everybody saving all their anger for Barry Bonds and saying they wish he never wears a uniform again, when there is a man named Gary Sheffield still playing!
Who is Gary Sheffield? He is the guy that cheated just as much as Bonds, is as big as a jerk as Bonds, and oh....HE ACTUALLY MADE ERRORS ON PURPOSE IN MLB GAMES SO HE CAN GET TRADED! He did more damage to the integrity of the game than Pete Rose and Barry Bonds combined.
Bonds deserves the same treatment as all those other users got....which is basically nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
The notion of a distraction is kind of odd as well. That is just a cover for signing Bonds because he is notorious. Notorious for doing the same thing all the other guys did...and less than the biggest dirt bag in baseball...Gary SHeffield.
That is all I wanted to say.
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I understand you completely. I understand what society wants and does. And you probably know what I am going to say...
That doesn't make it right. All the people involved in that type of thinking should step back and rethink. The people in decision making capacities in baseball should be downright embarrassed.
Sheffield shouldn't even be allowed to play MLB. He did something worse than Pete Rose. He did something worse than Barry Bonds. He has no good redeeming quality about him.
<< <i>I agree 100%. The only thing I would add is that Im astonished at the amount of people that have said they want a bullet in his head! >>
I don't scorn Bonds any more than I do any of the other guys.
My 'support' for Bonds is the foolishness of the people in charge who have blackballed only him. Either suspend all the wrong doers, or move on and act like nothing happened...like they have for everyone else.
There is no good reason to only blackball Bonds.
You certainly have a point, and I can probably agree to that.
My view on the detrimental use of steroid to our youth is accurate in what you said.
If I were consistent with that belief, I would have to proclaim all them to be thrown out.
You already agree with the underlying premise, no need to elaborate.
However, as much as I disagree with the steroid use, I also disagree with punishing just one person when a group of people does something wrong...and the others go scott free. That is also a bad message to send.
MLB's policy has clearly been, "what is in the past is in the past." That method and rule should apply to everyone, INCLUDING Barry Bonds. It is there where I am coming from.
If they are going to forgive past similar transgressions, then forgive all who have done them. Picking out one person to NOT forgive is wrong too.
The second portion of my disgust is how Gary Sheffield has done wrongs on the scale of both Pete Rose and Barry Bonds...and he walks around continuing to play(and talk stupid as well)...yet it is never given first though(let alone a second). I would like to remind people that this dirt bag should not have been allowed to play after throwing baseball games. He has done more to hurt the integrity of the game than almost anyone.
<< <i>The main reason so much hate is directed towards Bonds is because he broke arguably the most enduring record in all of sports, the all time HR record, and the former holder of that record, Hank Aaron, was beyond reproach. If Sheffield had been the one to break the record, he'd be enduring as much abuse as Bonds does now. Our society loves a scapegoat, and Bonds fits the role to perfection. >>
Grote, you NAILED this right on the head.
Skinpinch, you are missing a huge point in all of this
Barry Bonds broke what is probably the most revered record in all of sports (debatable).
OF COURSE it is not "right" to let the rest of the putrid lot play their careers out without much fanfare.
Baseball realizes that most, if not all, of these players will fade away eventually after they retire becuase regardless of how gaudy numbers are, they don't SUPERCEDE a sacred record.
Barry Bonds WILL NOT fade away. He holds a sacred record.
It REALLY is just as SIMPLE as that.
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on all his home runs the year he hit 73....how times have changed. Goose Gossage is a HOF'er...and Bonds might have to wait forever.
hmmm
js
Steve
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Put it this way, even if Bonds were unquestioned the most hated, despised person in the history of sports, where would he rank in a list that included all historical figures? I'm guessing nowhere near the top. But the level of hate, disdain, dislike that Bonds' name evokes, you would think his name is at the very top.
People, this is sports and nothing more. But I think Marv Levy put it best. Once when asked by a reporter if a particular game was, "a must win," Levy responded, "No. World War II was a must win."
/s/ JackWESQ
Put it this way, even if Bonds were unquestioned the most hated, despised person in the history of sports, where would he rank in a list that included all historical figures? I'm guessing nowhere near the top. But the level of hate, disdain, dislike that Bonds' name evokes, you would think his name is at the very top.
People, this is sports and nothing more. But I think Marv Levy put it best. Once when asked by a reporter if a particular game was, "a must win," Levy responded, "No. World War II was a must win."
Of course, those are valid points you raise...but you can certainly argue that the culture of sports in our society transcends events and concepts that may seem far more significant or important in retrospect. Baseball is our national pasttime, and the home run record is arguably the most enduring record baseball has to offer. Yes, war and pestilence are far more serious and grave concepts to consider, but the word fan, short for fanatic, accurately describes those who favor sports, and it's also true that sports can offer something far greater than you'd think.
I still remember the first game at Shea following the 9/11 attacks, when the Mets faced the Atlanta Braves, and when Mike Piazza hit that late homer to propel the Mets to victory, the emotion in that stadium was so overwhelming, even though it was nothing more than a damn baseball game, that you knew this was far more important than that. And that's why, by extension, and with good reason, IMO, though one was seemingly little to do with the other, that fans despise Barry Bonds as much as they do--he ruined something sacred to all baseball fans, and if you don't feel that the all time home run record is a scared thing, well, you aren't a baseball "fan" (by definition) in the first place.
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when you are producing people can overlook that,but when you are on the couch they can't.
Bonds can go over and sit next to Rose for all I care!
JS
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<< <i>nobody hated Bonds when he was breaking records and smacking them into the drink in San Fran... >>
I did.
Steve
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<< <i>Kevin aka JS is nothing if not totally clueless. >>