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Dirty french gold - 2 not so dirty pieces added.
adamlaneus
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Hm; sounds offensive. Pardonez moi.
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adamlaneus
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adamlaneus
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adamlaneus
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Looks like great French gold to me!!
Stefanie
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Common cheap coins, apparently. I know nothing of rarity for these items. I do like the designs.
What struck me about the french 1911 coin...the fine fleur-de-lis border...and the very strong vertical die polish lines on the reverse. Interesting!
It also is a much more silvery coin. I cannot say that the white balance is the same for the 1817 french gold coin at the beginning of the thread, but the color difference between the 1911 and 1929 is very accurately represented here.
<< <i> It also is a much more silvery coin. I cannot say that the white balance is the same for the 1817 french gold coin at the beginning of the thread, but the color difference between the 1911 and 1929 is very accurately represented here. >>
Adam,
When I was looking to buy a Rooster I found the following information -
Roosters issued starting in 1898 through 1906, have an edge design of DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE. (1st series)
Roosters issued starting in 1907 through 1914, have an edge design of LIBERTE EGALITE FRATERNITE. (2nd series)
Roosters dated 1907 to 1914, have also been officially re-struck and thus can often be obtained in Unc condition at close to bullion price. This second series has been minted again since 1948, when the gold market reopened after WW II. They were re-struck using the original 1907-1914 dies. The characteristic of this re-struck series is the reddish aspect of the coins, because of the presence of more copper in them, as stated by Aidan Work.
If you would like your rooster to be an original 2nd series, as opposed to a re-strike, beware of the color. If the coin has a reddish tone to it, then the gold has had copper added to it and it is a re-strike. If it appears yellow, then the gold has had silver added to it and it is an original 2nd series.
For further information see "Le franc VI", p.465, in french I'm afraid.
So Adam, from the yellow/silver color yours appears to be an original 2nd series. To some people it doesn't matter if their's is a re-strike. As the re-strikes are often found in better condition than originals. Personally I prefer an original.
EDIT: These are 6.45gm, 21mm and .900 fine.
Low and behold, after seeing the coin in real relief, I now much prefer the obverse to the reverse.
If you're becoming interested in the realm of beautiful world gold coins, take a look at Silvereagle82's (in this thread) signature line. He has amassed an impressive array of world gold coins, from many centuries!
thanks for sharing!
Doug
Yep, my coin is clearly pale and on the silvery side. It looked unusual to me. I'm glad I paid attention to white balance and i'm glad I posted on this forum, as I had no idea that such a distinction existed.
I sort of wish I had done more reading before purchasing. I'm not certain where to look. The coin itself looked very nice to me and that's how i've been purchasing lately. Based on eye candy and how I feel about the coin from a design standpoint, relatively ignorant of the history. They are incredible lead-ins to history.
Silvereagle82's collection is fascinating to look through. I need to take some serious time to examine those.
In the mean time, i'll keep my eye open everywhere I can looking for nice examples of world gold!!! I like the look of the set so far and 'it needs' to be larger.
Thanks for all of the good information!
Yes it looks like you lucked out and got an original. It's a gamble buying a 2nd series Rooster online because few people post pictures that show true colors. But many people are happy with a re-strike because of the usually better condition.
I have an interest in French coins, especially 18th and 19th century. But I haven't found any in depth sites or books that are in english. I just pick up bits of information here and there.
(Edit: Duh- I meant it ain't DIRTY, or French. Of course it's gold.)
It's all good, though!
Now you need some Louis d'or!!
<< <i>It's a gamble buying a 2nd series Rooster online because few people post pictures that show true colors >>
You don't know the half of it. It came from TeleTrade! I got lucky.
The last one isn't gold?!? Did I get ripped off?
Louis d'or, eh? I need to hang out in this forum. The world is a huge, interesting place!
Looks like 22 K gold to me. Please explain.
I meant to type, "Hey, waittasecond- that last one ain't dirty, or French!"
Since you got the Rooster from Teletrade I assume it is slabbed ... care to share the grade ?
Regarding my gold collection ... please take your time in your examination of both the photos and the descriptions. I take a lot of pride in providing all the interesting information (numismatic and historical) I can for each coin. I'm always searching for new information to add to my coin details. I get as much enjoyment in researching the facts about each coin I buy as I do in admiring their beauty !!!
Welcome to "World" of Gold
Determined .... Thank for sharing those facts on the French rooster.
Doogy ... Thanks for the plug
Apparently, 63 is not a grade that is at much of a premium. I recall paying close to 'cheap worn half eagle' prices for these two.
Try getting any US gold in a 63 numeric grade close to melt.
The euro coins must be on the metric grading scale.