1975 topps rack pack cracking woes

opened a beautiful ungraded 1975 topps baseball rack pack the other day that i bought almost two years ago; the majority of the 42 cards are gorgeous, clean and well-centered. (some have centering issues); i pulled a ryan highlights #5, a bench, a garvey (that one was guaranteed as it was the top card in one of the sections), a hernandez rookie and a 62 mvp's (mantle-wills). the bench would be an easy 9: it has perfect corners and centering, however, of course it has to have a yellow diagonal line or semi-smudge (almost looks like a crayon mark) that runs from the bottom edge of the card starting under the second "n" in "johnny" up through the "y" in johnny and ends where the red section meets the white section, just to the left of the "b" in bench. (sorry for the longwinded description, but i dont know how to post pictures). my question is: would psa assign a "pd" or "mk" qualifier to the card because of this?? i'm thinking "pd", but maybe they would disregard it because its otherwise a perfect card. any help or thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated--thanks in advance!!

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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,030 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like a PD, but we need scans of all the good cards and razor commons - a $200+ pack break deserves scans!
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 5,667 ✭✭✭
    Wow, maybe 70s and older unopened packs would be a great investment if everyone keeps opening them all the time. I mean, they can only get rarer as they are opened, right?
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 27,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, maybe 70s and older unopened packs would be a great investment if everyone keeps opening them all the time. I mean, they can only get rarer as they are opened, right?

    That would seem to make sense, but the value of 1975 unopened product (with the possible exception of rack packs) has actually declined somewhat over the last 5 years. I think there is much more product out there than we realize.


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  • I agree with grote15 wholeheartedly. I started collecting 1975 bb cellos paks 5 years ago and today you can still pick them up on ebay at the same price and many times at lower prices than five years ago. I too hope that '70's unopened paks will become scarcer in time and go up in value. But like grote15 I feel strongly that there is more of this stuff out there than we collectors would like to think. In fact in 2002 I contacted GAI and asked them what they thought the investment potential of mint '75 bb cellos was. They told me they believed that in three years they would be bringing $150 each. Well its been six years and there still bring the same price of around $75 to $85 that they were bring at the time I called GAI. I however collect for sentimental reasons only so if I break even I can live with that but I surely don't want to lose money. I guess though if you factor in inflation I am losing money...oh what the heck...its still fun and the memories are great...
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  • Wow. Worth alot more today.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    Wow, maybe 70s and older unopened packs would be a great investment if everyone keeps opening them all the time. I mean, they can only get rarer as they are opened, right?

    That would seem to make sense, but the value of 1975 unopened product (with the possible exception of rack packs) has actually declined somewhat over the last 5 years. I think there is much more product out there than we realize.

    I thought this was a current thread until I read Tim’s response, lol.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 27,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2, 2019 2:43PM

    @PaulMaul said:

    @grote15 said:
    Wow, maybe 70s and older unopened packs would be a great investment if everyone keeps opening them all the time. I mean, they can only get rarer as they are opened, right?

    That would seem to make sense, but the value of 1975 unopened product (with the possible exception of rack packs) has actually declined somewhat over the last 5 years. I think there is much more product out there than we realize.

    I thought this was a current thread until I read Tim’s response, lol.

    It goes to show just how stagnant values were up till around 2011 or so. You could buy 75 cellos and racks prior to that for $75 and $125, respectively, for years. From that point forward, the market changed drastically. I'm glad I saved as much as I did and wish I had bought more, LOL.



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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2, 2019 3:15PM

    @grote15 said:

    That would seem to make sense, but the value of 1975 unopened product (with the possible exception of rack packs) has actually declined somewhat over the last 5 years. I think there is much more product out there than we realize.

    I nearly collapsed on the floor reading this until I saw that date stamp lol

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  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 351 ✭✭✭

    As a Garvey collector, it is sad to hear that a Garvey on top pack was destroyed. I would probably have never been willing to pay the premium for one that old (I think 78 was my oldest) to keep it from getting ripped though.

    That said, I don't collect unopened (except Garvey on top packs), and frankly disagree with the whole concept in theory. I understand it, but these packs were meant to be opened and enjoyed. HOWEVER, since there is such a market for them and especially with player collectors finding their favorite players on top, it is now sad to hear of great old packs that somehow survived the incredibly powerful pull of being opened for so long, succumbing finally.

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