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Some English tokens and a 1897 Victoria 55mm *** my images***


Well, I received them today. In my opinion they don't look like the sellers imagesimage

What is your opinion?




Stefanie




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Well I have been busy today picking up various items.

Tokens and a 1897 Victoria Jubilee Medal 55mm copper.

Can I have your thoughts please.




Stefanie





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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Love that Victoria medal.
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    The first token is catalogued as either Kent Canterbury D&H #6 or #7 depending on the edge:
    6 - PAYABLE AT JOHN MATHEWSs + + + + + (Common)
    6a - PAYABLE IN LANCASTER LONDON OR BRISTOL (RR)
    7 - PAYABLE AT JAMES ROBERTSONS + + + (Common)

    Both 6 & 7 are G.T.T.s, a total of 15,500 of 6 & 7 were minted. The diesinker was Dixon, the manufacturer Lutwyche.

    The second is Middlesex National Series D&H #954 (Common) The edge should read:
    PAYABLE IN LANCASTER LONDON OR BRISTOL The diesinker was Dixon, the manufacturer Lutwyche. Approx. 1,000,000 of 952-954 were minted for general circulation.

    The third is catalogued as Middlesex Lackington's D&H #351. There are 4 edge varieties:
    351 - Milled (Common)
    351a - AN ASTLOM FOR THE OPRESS'D OF ALL NATIONS (R)
    351b - BIRMINGHAM OR IN SWANSEA (RR)
    351c - PAYABLE IN LONDON LIVERPOOL OR BRISTOL (R)
    This is also a G.T.T. It is thought that the diesinker and manufacturer was John Westwood. Lackington is a very interesting person - well worth reading about. In all he and his partners had about 7 tons of tokens manufactured, making him the largest issuer of commercial tokens in London. His bookstore, known as "The Temple of the Muses" in Finsbury Square sold upwards of 100,000 volumes a year. He started life as a destitue boy bound as an apprentice to a shoemaker. He taught himself to read and write. Married in 1770 they had only a halfpenny and the clothes they wore to their names.

    The fourth token is a farthing token from Issac Earlysman. A large number of farthing tokens were minted for him - I have one (one of my first token purchases), you see these on eBay somewhat frequently. I have some information around here somewhere on him, I just don't know where. The early 19th C. tokens of Great Britain are not something I collect but how can you pass up an early balloon token?
    Issac Earlysman was an ironmonger in London. If you Google him you can find alot on his baloon tokens.


    R.I.P. Wayne, Brad
    Collecting:
    Conder tokens
    19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭✭
    Great tokens. You have been posting some real interesting things lately!
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    great pieces! I love that particular Vicky medal, a great design and can be had for a fairly reasonable price. Here is my full sized silver version

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The first token is catalogued as either Kent Canterbury D&H #6 or #7 depending on the edge:
    6 - PAYABLE AT JOHN MATHEWSs + + + + + (Common)
    6a - PAYABLE IN LANCASTER LONDON OR BRISTOL (RR)
    7 - PAYABLE AT JAMES ROBERTSONS + + + (Common)

    Both 6 & 7 are G.T.T.s, a total of 15,500 of 6 & 7 were minted. The diesinker was Dixon, the manufacturer Lutwyche.

    The second is Middlesex National Series D&H #954 (Common) The edge should read:
    PAYABLE IN LANCASTER LONDON OR BRISTOL The diesinker was Dixon, the manufacturer Lutwyche. Approx. 1,000,000 of 952-954 were minted for general circulation.

    The third is catalogued as Middlesex Lackington's D&H #351. There are 4 edge varieties:
    351 - Milled (Common)
    351a - AN ASTLOM FOR THE OPRESS'D OF ALL NATIONS (R)
    351b - BIRMINGHAM OR IN SWANSEA (RR)
    351c - PAYABLE IN LONDON LIVERPOOL OR BRISTOL (R)
    This is also a G.T.T. It is thought that the diesinker and manufacturer was John Westwood. Lackington is a very interesting person - well worth reading about. In all he and his partners had about 7 tons of tokens manufactured, making him the largest issuer of commercial tokens in London. His bookstore, known as "The Temple of the Muses" in Finsbury Square sold upwards of 100,000 volumes a year. He started life as a destitue boy bound as an apprentice to a shoemaker. He taught himself to read and write. Married in 1770 they had only a halfpenny and the clothes they wore to their names.

    The fourth token is a farthing token from Issac Earlysman. A large number of farthing tokens were minted for him - I have one (one of my first token purchases), you see these on eBay somewhat frequently. I have some information around here somewhere on him, I just don't know where. The early 19th C. tokens of Great Britain are not something I collect but how can you pass up an early balloon token?
    Issac Earlysman was an ironmonger in London. If you Google him you can find alot on his baloon tokens. >>















    Once again I thank youimage

    I'll post them when I get them.




    Stefanie
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭✭
    Stefanie - your photos show the details much better.

    It's obvious that the seller(s) lightened their photos. If you're OK with the grades vs. sellers description then keep them. If not, explore returning them.
    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Stefanie - your photos show the details much better.

    It's obvious that the seller(s) lightened their photos. If you're OK with the grades vs. sellers description then keep them. If not, explore returning them. >>



















    They look like I expected grade wise, I just wish the seller would not have juiced the imagesimage
    I never expected any to be red or even red/brown but sheeeez, I wish they wouldn't try to play games.



    The Canterbury and Lackington may be worth grading. But I have to see if its worth it.




    Stefanie
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    Your pictures are much more true to the color I expected the tokens to be, though the Sparrow token is a bit darker than I thought it would be.

    The 3 Conder tokens are all very nice, the Canterbury token being my favorite in the group.
    R.I.P. Wayne, Brad
    Collecting:
    Conder tokens
    19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
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