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Is the summer always this slow for card buying?

I've only been back collecting for a year and a half and last summer I was only doing 61 Basketball. It it just me or have the listings on eBay and other sites diminished a little bit? I imagine it's the summer but I was steamrolling through 7 different 70's Red Sox team sets until about mid June and all of the sudden I stopped being able to find cards that I needed. Nothing is low pop and I'm sure I've seen multiple copies for sale of a bunch of things that I need before this slowdown. Is this common? Does it happen every year?

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  • the sellers know, if you list now you lose money so no one wants to list anything and sell it for 40% of market.
  • kingraider75kingraider75 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭
    People do take vacations during July.
    Running an Ebay store sure takes a lot more time than a person would think!
  • The new Ebay changes have not helped, either. Alot of sellers are not happy, and looks to me like it's showing.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    My eBay store has slowed down the past 2 weeks.
  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭


    << <i>My eBay store has slowed down the past 2 weeks. >>



    whats your ebay id?
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...It it just me or have the listings on eBay and other sites diminished a little bit?..."

    /////////////////////////////////////


    EBAY declared war on its sellers at the same time the "economy"
    turned to caca and the buyers became ultra-bargain hunters.

    During the past 70-days, in excess of 20% of EBAY's top-110,000
    PSers have either gone NARU or have stopped listing. The trend
    will get much more drastic before it reverses.

    Despite EBAY's denials of two-weeks ago, NPB-counts have SOARED
    in the past 45-days. Fake SNADs, INRs, and chargebacks are at an
    all-time high. CCCBs are running so high that we can expect the major
    credit card issuers to begin backwardation on many of their "buyer
    protection" promises.

    EBAY admitted in regulatory filings that 1-in-300 PayPal transactions
    was found to be fraudulent in 2007. What is the count for 2008?
    What is the count since May 19, 2008? Sellers may not know the
    numbers, but they do know the trend. Why should they get in the
    mix, give their stuff away for nothing, and pay EBAY for the privilege?

    BUT, it is still all good for patient buyers. The bad economy will drive
    many of the weak hands back into the listing pool and bargains will
    be available. The folks who do not have to list, won't.

    EBAY no doubt is pleased that the collectible categories are really
    the only ones being adversely affected. Designer fashion, used
    clothing, and junk electronics are still flying off the EBAY shelves.
    The kind of carp that EBAY wants sold on its site is selling just fine.

    The "list for free" deal that buy.com has, is giving EBAY some breathing
    room and allowing the charade of steady listing counts to be maintained.
    The STR of buy's listings is between 1% and 3%; and, their item count
    is so fungible that EBAY can claim it to be as high as 500,000,000 items,
    due to non-unique multiples listed. EBAY only needs to stay between
    13 and 15 million "reported" listings for everything to "look fine" to the
    analysts.

    ........................

    And, if you ask me what time it is, I will tell you how to build a watch.


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    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818


    << <i>"...It it just me or have the listings on eBay and other sites diminished a little bit?..."

    /////////////////////////////////////


    EBAY declared war on its sellers at the same time the "economy"
    turned to caca and the buyers became ultra-bargain hunters.

    During the past 70-days, in excess of 20% of EBAY's top-110,000
    PSers have either gone NARU or have stopped listing. The trend
    will get much more drastic before it reverses.

    Despite EBAY's denials of two-weeks ago, NPB-counts have SOARED
    in the past 45-days. Fake SNADs, INRs, and chargebacks are at an
    all-time high. CCCBs are running so high that we can expect the major
    credit card issuers to begin backwardation on many of their "buyer
    protection" promises.

    EBAY admitted in regulatory filings that 1-in-300 PayPal transactions
    was found to be fraudulent in 2007. What is the count for 2008?
    What is the count since May 19, 2008? Sellers may not know the
    numbers, but they do know the trend. Why should they get in the
    mix, give their stuff away for nothing, and pay EBAY for the privilege?

    BUT, it is still all good for patient buyers. The bad economy will drive
    many of the weak hands back into the listing pool and bargains will
    be available. The folks who do not have to list, won't.

    EBAY no doubt is pleased that the collectible categories are really
    the only ones being adversely affected. Designer fashion, used
    clothing, and junk electronics are still flying off the EBAY shelves.
    The kind of carp that EBAY wants sold on its site is selling just fine.

    The "list for free" deal that buy.com has, is giving EBAY some breathing
    room and allowing the charade of steady listing counts to be maintained.
    The STR of buy's listings is between 1% and 3%; and, their item count
    is so fungible that EBAY can claim it to be as high as 500,000,000 items,
    due to non-unique multiples listed. EBAY only needs to stay between
    13 and 15 million "reported" listings for everything to "look fine" to the
    analysts.

    ........................

    And, if you ask me what time it is, I will tell you how to build a watch.


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  • Economy

    +1
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭
    It is showing. Look up 1956 Topps Aparicio, 1963 Topps Rose, 1966 Topps Jim Palmer, 1957 Topps Frank Robinson in psa or sgc....almost non existant compared to the past. It's very frustrating because a couple of those cards Ive been looking for over the past 2 months and havent found anything decent.

    Ebay is on a slide downhill when it comes to vintage.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    happens every summer, I have some 50's cards i need to sell but will wait for the cooler months.

    The economy isn't helping either.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • scooter729scooter729 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭
    High-end cards continue to sell at high prices; the buyers in the market for vintage cards priced in the thousands are less impacted by the economic situation, so that market has been impacted minimally if at all....
  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭
    As a buyer, this is a tremendous opportunity to find bargains. I found a lot of Garnett/Koby/AROD SLU pieces the
    other day and paid only $30.00.

    The economy is not helping for sure.


  • << <i>High-end cards continue to sell at high prices; the buyers in the market for vintage cards priced in the thousands are less impacted by the economic situation, so that market has been impacted minimally if at all.... >>



    Agree with this too...most of the high end stuff "KEY/CLASSIC" cards continue to rise.
    I am not sure I agree with 1963 rose as declining?
    Checking VCP a psa 8, there were a couple recent that sold less $1400ish, but the centering wasn't so hot.
    A centered one in may sold for $1800, and for $2600 at an auction house.

    Year ago prices for same card was between 1100 and 1800 with an average of about $1350.
    I didn't check all grades, but typically 8+ are investor grades.
  • It happens every summer, the items I am selling on Ebay are bringing near record prices. Right now many items are INCREASING in price on Ebay due to the high gas prices. People would rather stay home than buy at stores so they are willing to pay more for it.

    Another thing is many sellers have "left" Ebay saying they will never come back. This happens every year when Ebay makes changes, but in August and September when they start actually seeing that Ebay is the only place to really sell their items most come back and start selling again.

    The new policies while I don't care for them are not as bad as some sellers seem to think they are. If buyers feel safe then you are going to sell more. I still leave feedback after recieving it still file my INRs on day 7.

    As far as the economy goes. It must be very regional in the area I am there are new houses being built like crazy, everyone is hiring and unemployment is around 4.6%. Go from here to Dallas and in places like Royse City it is even crazier on what is being built. Gas is around 3.80 as well compared to places less than 100 miles away.
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    I noticed a lack of auctions for 33 Goudeys and graded unopened packs as well.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    I agree with the previous post. The "problems" are overstated, like they almost always are in a shaky economy. Ebay issues are merely an extension of housing prices PLUNGING, or air fares SKYROCKETING. Like everything else in today's media age downward sales on Ebay are subjected to heavy doses of hyperbole. Things are never, in this day and age, as bad as they seem.

    The facts are, the economy is shaky, people are getting squeezed by energy specalators, and it's the summertime. All of that affects Ebay traffic negatively. So do, to some extent, Ebay's new policies. But until a viable competitor to Ebay emerges, sellers will continue to naturally gravitate to Ebay as the most convenient venue to sell.

    Desirable cards sell well at any time of year on Ebay, as I found out last weekend. What's challenging in the summertime is selling the volume stuff, but that's only logical. More people outdoors, longer daylight hours, and folks on vacation. None of that has anything to do with the economy, which is, as was pointed out, very regional.

    I would prefer to sell everything I put up for sale via these boards, and I almost always offer it here first. Not only to avoid the fees, but also to sell my stuff to this fine community of people. I would rather y'all get it than some faceless Ebay ID. And even though it probably costs me money, I don't pimp my Ebay auctions over here.

    So the answer to the question is generally, yes. But that doesn't mean it's 1929 online.




    RB
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
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  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭


    << <i>happens every summer, I have some 50's cards i need to sell but will wait for the cooler months.

    The economy isn't helping either.


    Steve >>



    We bring this up every year at this time. I have some 57s to sell but will wait until after the summer, like I always do.
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes I'll take a flier with listing one of my high dollar cards ($500+) with a reasonable BIN. I sold 4 of the 10 I list just before the holiday.

    I have a ton of 1955 Topps All-American dups I will sell this fall, no need to give them away now.
    Mike
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    The adversity surrounding ebay and their new system of operating may actually drive up prices in the short term. Supply and demand will actually increase prices on certain cards for a while. Unlike the oil industry which claims S & D at all times when it is a bogus claim, when there is fewer cards and more buyers (including the bargain hunters), a true supply and demand scenario occurs.
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • TJMACTJMAC Posts: 864 ✭✭
    I have seen no real change in the items I buy PSA 5, 6, 7 1956-1967 baseball. I get a bargain here and there, but some of what I am bidding on is going out of my budgeted price range. So, I wish some of the bargains would come my way as I have money to spend.

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gasoline and food prices are SURELY eating into alot of card budgets out there image

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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Slow?
    If its slow, slow is great!

    Its a buyers market in Vintage (1880-1941).
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