sure is one sweet 1965 kennedy here

lasvegasteddy

on the bay from a board member too...sure wish i had the bread

ArizonaJack

sweet !!

keets

any denomination SMS issue in any Deep Cameo grade is worthy of a "pull back" in my opinion, especially anything from 1965 and any oif the Cents. i realize that these coins and sets standing alone are considered very common by many members here but considering the OP's 1965 coin, there may be perhaps less than 100 coins total with true Deep Cameo surfaces. prices for such coins are already strong enough, given time for the hobby to "catch up" with the conditional rarity of the SMS issues in the better grades, they'll eventually have their day.

it's ironic that the coins and the interesting circumstances that brought them about are scoffed at by so many collectors who pursue more Classic coinage. those same collectors tend to favor such things as DMPL Morgan Dollars and any 19th Century issue with true PL surfaces by placing a premium on those coins. in truth, that sort of stuff is more common than Deep Cameo SMS coinage, especially the 1965 issues and the Cents!!!

19Lyds

Well stated Al.

Russ

Freshly graded, too. Showed up in the pop report the week of June 16th.

Russ, NCNE

keets

Freshly graded, too. Showed up in the pop report the week of June 16th.

considering the slight friction on the jawline and the typical weakness at the bottom of the shield perhaps this shoulkd start to turn the tide of prevailing opinion that PCGS is being "tight" right now. from my perspective it's a bit difficult to tell from the pictures which look like the typical LampshadeEffect™ attempting to diffuse the light, giving what looks to me a very unnatural appearance to the coin(s). the technique tends to enhance the mirrors and contrast while also masking imperfections such as ticks and hairlines.

i would expect the coin looks nice, i just wish more sellers would strive for more realistic looking pictures.

19Lyds

<< <i>...............start to turn the tide of prevailing opinion that PCGS is being "tight" right now. >>



Al, I don't think that PCGS is tight right now as much as I think that many submitters expectations are high.

DHeath

Looks like it has plenty of mirror depth, which in my opinion distinguishes extraordinary from common for the 65. Very tasty.

keets

Al, I don't think that PCGS is tight right now as much as I think that many submitters expectations are high.

as i said, the prevailing opinion.............................how that's arrived at isn't really important, but it's the same song that gets sung year after year after year. i've even joined in the chorus in the past.

Looks like it has plenty of mirror depth

as i said, the LampshadeEffect™ technique tends to enhance the mirrors and contrast while also masking imperfections such as ticks and hairlines. my reply wasn't necessarily saying i thought the coin was overgraded or mis-designated, only that judging from an online picture where this technique is used(or whatever manipulation is used) doesn't show the coin naturally as it really looks. my hunch is that in reality, the coin looks more black/white, has less of a smooth look to the fields, shows flowlines in the fields, has more uniform appearing frost and probably barely shows the jawline friction/frost break. that's the thing with that diffused light set-up and toying with the white balance, it tends to make the coin glow in an unnatural way.

i can't figure out why sellers use it instead of trying to get a picture of what the coin looks like. i will admit to trying the techniques of manipulation but didn't like the results.

SanctionII

I would like to see the pictured coin in hand. I suspect that it does not look, in hand, close to what it looks like in the picture. Still, I would think that with a DCAM designation the fields have to be very smooth, black and watery.

I remember a few years ago an R&I Coins photo of a 1965 DCAM SMS Kennedy it was trying to sell for $10,000.00 was posted on the Forums. The picture of that R&I coin sure did get some attention from forumites. The photo showed what looked to be a 1964 DCAM proof Kennedy. I suspect the photo showed the coin in the best condition possible, but in hand it still was a monster.

Russ

Russ, NCNE

YaHa

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<< <i>...............start to turn the tide of prevailing opinion that PCGS is being "tight" right now. >>



Al, I don't think that PCGS is tight right now as much as I think that many submitters expectations are high. >>




DIdn't James Taylor buy PCGS last week?

Maybe that's why they are a little loose nowadays.

lasvegasteddy

hmmm....just hmmm...lol...all i know is me likes the first one

SanctionII

That is the R&I Coins 1965 half I remember. In fact, I think Russ was the one who posted the picture a few years ago. Thanks again for your public service Russ.

What is the grade of this coin? Does anyone know if R&I ever sold this coin? If so, how much did it sell for and what has happened to it since? Has it been resold or is it still in the same hands?