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Need help grading this 1812 Half Eagle

commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
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Thanks in advance for the help.

-Paul
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU53... Some luster still left on that classic piece. NICE !!!
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF cleaned
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭✭
    Surfaces look a bit odd, but I'd say 40-45
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's tough to net grade the heavily tooled surfaces... might be circulation chatter and then cleaned but the marks between the stars and the rims especially bother, make me think someone really went to town in an attempt to repair, probably, graffitti.

    anyway, I think it's real but could be wrong on that too. Neat old coin, wonderful in any grade

    grade opinion? VF25 details net VG10.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF30 cleaned. Obverse appears to have more detail than the reverse.

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  • JZraritiesJZrarities Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    XF 40 details
    Cleaned
    Net VF
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Heavily cleaned net XF40

    You would expect to see hairlines and a few nicks here and there at this grade.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭
    The coin was either in a bezel, or it was purposely "pinged" (my term) to cover tooling/repairs.

    The coin is still worth in the 4 figures, but unless PCGS or NGC misses it (EXTREMELY unlikely), it will not slab.

    Still -- enjoy the coin for what it is. It is a high sharpness example of a very desirable early US gold coin.
    John Agre

    Coin Rarities Online
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF35 details, surfaces cleaned and lightly smoothed, perhaps to remove environmental damage. You can see that the roughness disappears in the protected areas, such as around the date and stars. I wonder if this coin was perhaps salvaged from a shipwreck site in salt water/sand, where it acquired some light surface abrasions. Still a nice example of an early half eagle that should net-grade somewhere around VF20.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's been whizzed or has had its surfaces otherwise completely destroyed.
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  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks ex-jewelry to me... has that "sweated" look. It's been cleaned too, much like any jewelry piece.

    I grade it EF40 details, net F-12.

    C'dude
    Got Crust....y gold?
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One look at that obverse pic should tell any gold collector worth his dust that this coin has been boinked.
    Not just cleaned....boinked.
    Good call Baley.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    good call by the guys ahead of me, BECOKA, TomB and JRocco.

    i think the dead give-away is that the area just around the devices/lettering is untouched and the devices/lettering all look rounded where they meet the fields. what a sad demise for an otherwise nice coin.

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