I'm not sure, but I think that John's comment pertains to the 1909 posted by Lee in this thread, not to the picture of the 1919 linked in the OP. Edited to add: And I see that Sean thinks so, too!
Question for the experts: Aside from the smooth, mark-free surfaces and great color, is the strike exceptional for this date, or do many 1919s display this crisp detail? >>
The mint had begun touching up the dies, adding details to the beard that were never intended to be in the design.
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We can argue all day long if the coin should be a 68 or a 69, RD or RB. All I know is that it's indeed the finest Wheat Cent I've ever seen. It almost looks unreal!
the way i am reading stews comments... the coin was first graded 68. thus validating any forum members who stated they thought the coin looked like a 68. upon resubmission it got tombed as a 69.
hey ricko, put that in your pipe and smoke it!
all this just validates my thoughts on current professional opinion giving. one day a 68, next month a 69, send it back now and i would bet good money it would 68 most of the time.
but stew has that precious label stating 69 and thus that proves it is the finest known!
snicker.
in all seriousness though, it is a darn fine looking coin but lets get honest here and base the conversation in reality. plastic opinion is just that. a crap shoot.
<< <i>the way i am reading stews comments... the coin was first graded 68. thus validating any forum members who stated they thought the coin looked like a 68. upon resubmission it got tombed as a 69. >>
Blay will need to clarify this for us. I also read his statement the same way. But the statement could also be interpreted as saying the coin was submitted raw along with several 68's that were already slabbed just to show it (the future 69) was deserving of a higher grade.
<< <i>the way i am reading stews comments... the coin was first graded 68. thus validating any forum members who stated they thought the coin looked like a 68. upon resubmission it got tombed as a 69. >>
Blay will need to clarify this for us. I also read his statement the same way. But the statement could also be interpreted as saying the coin was submitted raw along with several 68's that were already slabbed just to show it (the future 69) was deserving of a higher grade. >>
i agree his statement was a bit vague but i just gave my opinion on how i interpreted it. i disliked how people got flamed for giving their opinion and it seemed stew validated it.
if i am wrong i apologize for misreading what he meant and retract my thoughts. if it was graded 69 the first time well then!
I really think its a bit foolish to start dissing established coins from photographs since photographs can be manipulated from a color aspect so easily. Especially when they are second and third renditions of the original photo.
The only accurate method of determining grade an color are by seeing the coin in person. Until then everything else is just fodder.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
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SORRY FOR THE COMMENT JOHN.I WAS WRONG. PLEASE FORGIVE ME !
STEWART
BTW THERE IS ALSO A PRINT AT 6 O'CLOCK ON THE REVERSE OF THE SAID COIN
<< <i>A spectacular Lincoln cent.
Question for the experts:
Aside from the smooth, mark-free surfaces and great color, is the strike exceptional for this date, or do many 1919s display this crisp detail? >>
The mint had begun touching up the dies, adding details to the beard that were never intended to be in the design.
thus validating any forum members who stated they thought the coin looked like a 68.
upon resubmission it got tombed as a 69.
hey ricko, put that in your pipe and smoke it!
all this just validates my thoughts on current professional opinion giving.
one day a 68, next month a 69, send it back now and i would bet good money
it would 68 most of the time.
but stew has that precious label stating 69 and thus that proves it is the finest known!
snicker.
in all seriousness though, it is a darn fine looking coin but lets get honest here and base
the conversation in reality. plastic opinion is just that. a crap shoot.
Rats.
<< <i>the way i am reading stews comments... the coin was first graded 68.
thus validating any forum members who stated they thought the coin looked like a 68.
upon resubmission it got tombed as a 69. >>
Blay will need to clarify this for us. I also read his statement the same way. But the statement could also be interpreted as saying the coin was submitted raw along with several 68's that were already slabbed just to show it (the future 69) was deserving of a higher grade.
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<< <i>the way i am reading stews comments... the coin was first graded 68.
thus validating any forum members who stated they thought the coin looked like a 68.
upon resubmission it got tombed as a 69. >>
Blay will need to clarify this for us. I also read his statement the same way. But the statement could also be interpreted as saying the coin was submitted raw along with several 68's that were already slabbed just to show it (the future 69) was deserving of a higher grade. >>
i agree his statement was a bit vague but i just gave my opinion on how i interpreted it.
i disliked how people got flamed for giving their opinion and it seemed stew
validated it.
if i am wrong i apologize for misreading what he meant and retract my thoughts.
if it was graded 69 the first time well then!
If you have 5 MS68's and the best of the 5 is upgraded to 69, in most cases that's exactly where it belongs.
<< <i>Astounds me too. I've lived 44 years and I still can't believe people have opinions.
It'd be great if we were all robots and just said YES to anything and everything anybody ever said or did.
Join us....ONE OF US....
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<< <i>Astounds me too. I've lived 44 years and I still can't believe people have opinions.
It'd be great if we were all robots and just said YES to anything and everything anybody ever said or did.
Join us....ONE OF US.... >>
My opinion is that I'm not all that interested in someone else's opinion of a coin that:
1) Is based only on a photo
2) Is about a coin they've never seen in hand
3) Is in a series in which they aren't an expert
4) Wasn't solicited to begin with
But hey, that's just my opinion.
Anyone who wants to see the 19 should come to ANA in July.
K
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
I really think its a bit foolish to start dissing established coins from photographs since photographs can be manipulated from a color aspect so easily. Especially when they are second and third renditions of the original photo.
The only accurate method of determining grade an color are by seeing the coin in person. Until then everything else is just fodder.
The name is LEE!