Why do so many 2/3 Brunswick Talers seem to survive in great condition with color?

GemWorldCoins

Why do so many 2/3 Brunswick Talers survive in high grades with particularly attractive color? I've bought several over the years, while in the same time period I've hadly found a similar quality Taler. Specifically, the 1677 Brunswick Luneberg types survive wonderfully. I bought three last month.

Here's one as an example of the quality and color.

TypeCollector

AT?

GemWorldCoins

Maybe AT (assume this means artifically toned) but I have had similar ones 10 years ago ....the same date yet never a taler from the same period.

Rickc300

Maybe the same reason I find so many coins holed from the same place and period... They are attractive and people saved them or drilled holes in them to wear as jewelry? I find many more of the smaller silver denominations than the larger holed so maybe it was the face value that dictated what one could afford to wear or display as "art"? Also I seem to recall Brunswick and Stolberg were both large producers of silver so silver coinage was probably more readily available to the general population than in others areas of Germany... I am sure someone will chime in with a different view soon and provide another idea or reason behind this soon. Either way, we, as collectors are lucky to have this field of nice coins available.

Rick

3Mark

Steve:

And where are the pic's of the other two? According to Dirk, the talers are much harder than the 2/3's, although I think that 3 of them just came together in Long Beach and the 2/3 talers are not common in gem. You're just lucky

Larry

GemWorldCoins

OK Maye not common in gem but more common than the taler. Also, perhaps the silver composition allowed them to tone much nicer than other silver coins of the same period. Here is a picture of one of the other 2/3 Talers you mention as being in Long beach last week.. Also great color and definitely not AT in my opinion.

worldcoinguy

Killer coin is an understatement. That is one nice taler.

On the earlier topic, I dont think the 2/3 is AT. On a 20 year old coin.....yes, but not on a 320 year old coin in gem.

By the way, are you trying to corner the market on 1677 talers?

Preussen

Beautiful coins ...keep the pics coming -Preussen

Edited to add - I seriously doubt they're AT.

3Mark

Steve:

I'm going along with NT, but who can tell I know you have another one of these "Palm" 2/3rd talers from Long Beach; so where is it?

Larry

7Jaguars

Good chance of AT even on an old coin as I have seen even ancients that have been chemically surface cleaned and then put in altered environment with color changes that don't appear "right".

Sulfides are generally more natural in shades of brown with minor exceptions, vibrant and electrical coloration is not the norm.

GemWorldCoins

Larry

Here is the third one from Beverly Hill (Goldberg) not Long Beach. I doubt any of them are AT

3Mark

Steve:

Great pics and now the big question is, why is Johan facing left twice and right once? Believe it or not I have no idea I would call Germany, but I figure that everyone is watching fußball to see who Germany will play in the finals.

Larry

bidask

<< <i>OK Maye not common in gem but more common than the taler. Also, perhaps the silver composition allowed them to tone much nicer than other silver coins of the same period. Here is a picture of one of the other 2/3 Talers you mention as being in Long beach last week.. Also great color and definitely not AT in my opinion.


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Wowee, nice coin.