1834 Gold $2.50 opinions please

msassin

Hi there. Stopping over from the sportscard message boards.

I bought this coin at a local auction a couple years ago.
The auctioneer does not have the best a good reputation (counterfeit/trimmed cards, etc.)


Is there any easy way to tell from my scans if it is real or not? What would you expect it to grade?

GoldenEyeNumismatics

The coin is real, but it looks to be holed and plugged.

CoinRaritiesOnline

It is very hard to tell from a scan, of course, but here is my opinion:

Genuine. Uncirculated details, but it looks cleaned to the point where it would not be graded by either NGC or PCGS. I would submit it to ANACS. If they do not call it cleaned, you may want to submit it to either NGC or PCGS for a crossover into their holder.

Good luck, and I hope I am mistaken about the cleaning.

CoinRaritiesOnline

<< <i>The coin is real, but it looks to be holed and plugged. >>



That could well be. I missed it at 12 o'clock. Very likely, in fact.

msassin

I wasn't able to blow it up any better, but I assume this is what you guys are looking at?

PerryHall

Looks polished. Probably an ex-jewelry piece which would explain the hole and plugging.

BECOKA

The quick option is to take it to a local dealer for an opinion on if it has any issues.

The reality is that most scanners do a poor job of showing a coin and it is difficult to say much with out seeing it in person.

All the comments so far are based on a scan that is small, mutes potential luster, makes a coin look cleaned etc...

CoinRaritiesOnline

<< <i>The quick option is to take it to a local dealer for an opinion on if it has any issues.

The reality is that most scanners do a poor job of showing a coin and it is difficult to say much with out seeing it in person.

All the comments so far are based on a scan that is small, mutes potential luster, makes a coin look cleaned etc... >>



Bekoka: That is good advice.

I just received a PM from a dealer friend who said -- "Really Dave, based just on that image? I sure can't tell."

I will copy my reply to him here, just so I don't sound too certain of my opinion based on those scans:

"Well, that unnatural disturbance at 2 1/2 is right where a plugged hole would be, and an MS sharpness Classic quarter eagle would be a good suspect for being plugged, and the surfaces (based only on the scan, mind you!) seem to have the cleaned PL look that a repaired coin would have.
But -- to answer your question head on -- I absolutely cannot tell with 100% certainty that that is what happened to that coin just from a flatbed scanner scan. If I gave that impression in my response to the chatroom poster, then I better expand upon it (or even cut and paste this reply to you!)."

relicsncoins

I've oftened wondered with the realative inexpensivness of decent digital cameras these days, why you still see a fair amount of scans on here and other sites such as ebay.

JJ

MrEureka

If it's plugged through the "2 1/2", the reconstituted characters will probably not perfectly match the original ones. It's time to identify the variety and compare your coin to others of the same variety.

Aegis3

<< <i>If it's plugged through the "2 1/2", the reconstituted characters will probably not perfectly match the original ones. It's time to identify the variety and compare your coin to others of the same variety. >>



It's a small head variety (only one die pairing once you determine that.) As far as I can tell, it matches just fine. Fancy 8, 4 far from curl. Stars in the right positions. Eagle has a tongue, there is a berry. Arrowheads where they should be. So are the leaves.

MrEureka

It's a small head variety (only one die pairing once you determine that.) As far as I can tell, it matches just fine. Fancy 8, 4 far from curl. Stars in the right positions. Eagle has a tongue, there is a berry. Arrowheads where they should be. So are the leaves.

How about the 2 1/2?

CoinHusker

<< <i>The coin is real, but it looks to be holed and plugged. >>



Considering you got it a couple years ago, and if you paid a good price, and you weren't thinking of submitting it for a grade or buy it for that purpose... who cares?!

Aegis3

<< <i>It's a small head variety (only one die pairing once you determine that.) As far as I can tell, it matches just fine. Fancy 8, 4 far from curl. Stars in the right positions. Eagle has a tongue, there is a berry. Arrowheads where they should be. So are the leaves.

How about the 2 1/2? >>



Oh yeah. Definitely repaired. AFAICT from a small upside-down photo, the "1" is two large to be original and also too close to the whole numeral "2".

pb2y

If you like her---its is a winner.

robkool

AU58 details... (Ex jewlery/cleaned).