PAoutdoorsman Arrested in PA?
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Roger Hooper of Mechanicsburg, PA was arrested a couple weeks ago for fraud involving sports memorabilia.
As with most of these cases, it's a long story, but Hooper cheated another gentleman and another collector for nearly $70,000. After over 2 years of going after him he was arrested at his home.
Hooper sold just about any type of bogus item you can think of via his auction house: autographs, resealed wax, coins, vintage militaria, and anything else he thought he could make a buck from.
It is believed from good sources that Hooper was known as PAoutdoorsman on e-bay.
Edited to add: I was in no way involved in any of his scams. I copied this from another board.
As with most of these cases, it's a long story, but Hooper cheated another gentleman and another collector for nearly $70,000. After over 2 years of going after him he was arrested at his home.
Hooper sold just about any type of bogus item you can think of via his auction house: autographs, resealed wax, coins, vintage militaria, and anything else he thought he could make a buck from.
It is believed from good sources that Hooper was known as PAoutdoorsman on e-bay.
Edited to add: I was in no way involved in any of his scams. I copied this from another board.
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I've been burnt several times buying from him myself (although I am the fool that would go to his auctions).
<< <i>Gary, if you are reading this, I hope you are sweating more than your normal. We can only hope it will be you next. >>
I didn't know he could read?
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He was arraigned on 05/22/2008. His preliminary hearing in was postponed on 05/29/2008 until 07/10/2008. Bump this thread after that, and I can get updated information.
I have no idea what the probable cause was for those charges, or if Hooper ever used the ID PAoutdoorsman.
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<< <i>Gary, if you are reading this, I hope you are sweating more than your normal. We can only hope it will be you next. >>
I didn't know he could read? >>
From what I always understood, it was his mom who read everything for him.
<< <i>Roger Hooper of Mechanicsburg, PA was arrested a couple weeks ago for fraud involving sports memorabilia.
As with most of these cases, it's a long story, but Hooper cheated another gentleman and another collector for nearly $70,000. After over 2 years of going after him he was arrested at his home.
Hooper sold just about any type of bogus item you can think of via his auction house: autographs, resealed wax, coins, vintage militaria, and anything else he thought he could make a buck from.
It is believed from good sources that Hooper was known as PAoutdoorsman on e-bay.
Edited to add: I was in no way involved in any of his scams. I copied this from another board. >>
That's absolutely fantastic. If I'm remembering right, his actual first ebay name for his scams was paoutdoorsman2004 - I didn't double check it but I believe paoutdoorsman is a legitimate ebay seller.
Of course this scamming POS musta had at least ten other ebay names since 2004 in which he scammed ebay buyers.
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Just checked out his "website" - nothing but affiliate spam - pathetic.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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Randy Howard in the article was/is Hoopers sidekick.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=paoutdoorsman2004&ftab=AllFeedback
Scammer built up some nice feedback with a lot of nickel and dime stuff, then came in for the kill with dozens of items for hundreds and thousands of dollars - from the ebay scammer 101 textbook.
<< <i>Being from Camp Hill ( right next to Mechanicsburg ), I and all the collectors in the Harrisburg area knew about Hooper years ago. I knew him when he was a small time sleaze, opening and resealing wax packs. He had a store in Shiremanstown but had to close it when his "reputation" got around. Most of us lost track of him for a long time. I see he graduated into the big time of sleaze. I know his arraignment is July 10. Since I live 5 minutes from the JP's office I think I'll go see what happens to the SOB. >>
That's about what I figured. Normally these type of scammers move from state to state and that makes it very difficult to prosecute them. But this guy always had his address as in the central PA area. This guy probably has family in the area, and so he didn't want to leave the area, and that made for a bad idea for a prolific scammer, as shown by the fact that prosecutors had time to build up a case against him, and nail him.
Another lesson from the scammer 101 handbook - if you're gonna be a professional scammer, better keep a suitcase packed and be prepared to move quickly, and to another state or even another country if necessary. Otherwise you'll windup getting locked up in the state pen for a number of years - like this guy is likely to be.
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<< <i>Being from Camp Hill ( right next to Mechanicsburg ), I and all the collectors in the Harrisburg area knew about Hooper years ago. I knew him when he was a small time sleaze, opening and resealing wax packs. He had a store in Shiremanstown but had to close it when his "reputation" got around. Most of us lost track of him for a long time. I see he graduated into the big time of sleaze. I know his arraignment is July 10. Since I live 5 minutes from the JP's office I think I'll go see what happens to the SOB. >>
That's about what I figured. Normally these type of scammers move from state to state and that makes it very difficult to prosecute them. But this guy always had his address as in the central PA area. This guy probably has family in the area, and so he didn't want to leave the area, and that made for a bad idea for a prolific scammer, as shown by the fact that prosecutors had time to build up a case against him, and nail him.
Another lesson from the scammer 101 handbook - if you're gonna be a professional scammer, better keep a suitcase packed and be prepared to move quickly, and to another state or even another country if necessary. Otherwise you'll windup getting locked up in the state pen for a number of years - like this guy is likely to be. >>
This guy will get probation at the most and a slap on the wrist.
I recall the guy ultimately posting an ebay link to stuff and I'd almost bet CD'sleftNut that it was this PAOutdoorsman guy.
<< <i>...I'd almost bet CD'sleftNut that it was this PAOutdoorsman guy. >>
You can't do that. I already have his left nut down on the Raiders NOT winning the Super Bowl next year. Use his right nut.
<< <i>wasn't that guy on here a while back on the b/s/t board trying to sell some football rack packs and crap. I recall that he caught quite a bit of grief over stating that they were unsearched (or something like that) but admitted that there were no Paytons or something in them.
I recall the guy ultimately posting an ebay link to stuff and I'd almost bet CD'sleftNut that it was this PAOutdoorsman guy. >>
Is this the guy??
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here's another thread where he posts an Ebay ID of ebay id- pennsylvaniawhitetail
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All posts/threads of his.
judge and explain why the death penalty is warranted in this case.
Folks who suspect that a cowardly prosecutor might do a charity
plea-bargain, can write to that prosecutor BEFORE the deal is done.
<< <i>It looks like Roger Hooper was arrested on 05/22/2008 at OTN L417488-1 in Cumberland county PA and posted $30,000 bail on 05/23/2008. It appears that local police arrested him. He is charged with three counts of Deceptive/Fraudulent Business Practices, two counts of Theft by Deception, and one count of Dealing in Proceeds of Unlawful Activity.
He was arraigned on 05/22/2008. His preliminary hearing in was postponed on 05/29/2008 until 07/10/2008. Bump this thread after that, and I can get updated information.
I have no idea what the probable cause was for those charges, or if Hooper every used the ID PAoutdoorsman. >>
good for the cops! all they needed was a bit of hard evidence and BOOM!
<< <i>It looks like Roger Hooper was arrested on 05/22/2008 at OTN L417488-1 in Cumberland county PA and posted $30,000 bail on 05/23/2008. It appears that local police arrested him. He is charged with three counts of Deceptive/Fraudulent Business Practices, two counts of Theft by Deception, and one count of Dealing in Proceeds of Unlawful Activity.
He was arraigned on 05/22/2008. His preliminary hearing in was postponed on 05/29/2008 until 07/10/2008. Bump this thread after that, and I can get updated information.
I have no idea what the probable cause was for those charges, or if Hooper every used the ID PAoutdoorsman. >>
Where did you find this information online? I looked everywhere but couldn't find any details.
Thanks
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<< <i>It looks like Roger Hooper was arrested on 05/22/2008 at OTN L417488-1 in Cumberland county PA and posted $30,000 bail on 05/23/2008. It appears that local police arrested him. He is charged with three counts of Deceptive/Fraudulent Business Practices, two counts of Theft by Deception, and one count of Dealing in Proceeds of Unlawful Activity.
He was arraigned on 05/22/2008. His preliminary hearing in was postponed on 05/29/2008 until 07/10/2008. Bump this thread after that, and I can get updated information.
I have no idea what the probable cause was for those charges, or if Hooper every used the ID PAoutdoorsman. >>
Where did you find this information online? I looked everywhere but couldn't find any details.
Thanks >>
Sorry to bump this again, but I made this initial post on a different board. If you could let me know where you found this information I'd greatly appreciate it.
Here is the online article:
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Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
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Well...duh. I hope the police wouldn't call a suspect and ask his permission to investigate him.
It looks like his hearing is now scheduled for 08/12/2008 before the Magisterial Distrcit Judge. The case has not made it passed the criminal preliminary hearing.
Collector of Pittsburgh Pirates cards for a slightly less stupid reason.
My Pirates Collection
If anyone remembers the packs that CDsNuts and I had a dispute about this is the auctioneer I bought them from. He said they were from a store in Hershey that closed down. I knew the owner who was one of the nicest and classiest guys years ago who would NOT sell fake stuff. Myself and two other very knowledgeable people looked at some of the packs and they were clean on the backs, seals lined up, no problems. After selling some on Ebay and buyers pulling great cards I think some of the packs were graded, I sold all I had left to Lee and he found fakes. After much dispute Lee and I have worked out our differences, thanks for your grace Lee, and because some packs were legit and others were not it now makes sense. I don't buy any older wax without looking through EVERY SINGLE pack now, which I did not do with Hooper's packs.
<< <i><<< But he said the allegations have ruined his reputation and imperiled the collectibles and auction business he built over 30 years. >>>
Apparently the counterfeit 60's Bazooka cards (and Bond Bread among others) he got caught holdering/selling a few years back didn't hurt his reputation.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
If he goes to trial, it does not - from what I've read - seem like a slam dunk
for the prosecution.
Absent "proof" of his intent, his lawyer might be right: Civil Matter.
Being in the "collecible business" for a VERY long time, I KNOW that it is
NOT possible to make as many good-faith "mistakes" as the guy claims
he did. BUT, I am not sure how I would prove that to a numpty juror.
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