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Sucks that he jacked you
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Had a moment and took a closer look. He is a seller with that account as well. So, who knows if he is trying to run up prices, or wait for them to go up, then flip...?
He has also bought from my stalker on the boards.....I didn't see any feedback left for him yet, so he may be gaming him as well.....
150248071593 May-15-08 May-20-08 06:29:40 US $399.00 2008-W American Silver eagle, reverse of 2007 NGC MS69 Purchased on:
May-20-08 06:29:40
See All Buyers carlsbadeagletrader
Looking at his feedback, it is weird/sad because he was 100% on feedback and had "fast payment" in a few......good buyer gone bad?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i> BTW, this is my second no pay since the 'new' feedback rules went into effect.
Yep with the new rules, sellers have no recourse. Deadbeat buyers can now bid with more reckless abandon.
<< <i>Over $10,000 in auction wins over the past month. Mostly Rev. 07's. He didn't pay me and he has a strike, hopefully everyone else gives him a strike. I've been thinking, maybe he's buying and if the price goes up, he'll buy them and flip. If the price doesn't go up, no pay.
ebay user
BTW, this is my second no pay since the 'new' feedback rules went into effect.
Do you have an auction number?
Is this the auction?
The name is LEE!
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<< <i> BTW, this is my second no pay since the 'new' feedback rules went into effect.
Yep with the new rules, sellers have no recourse. Deadbeat buyers can now bid with more reckless abandon. >>
Wrongo. 3 strikes and you're out. --jerry
--Jerry
<< <i> Wrongo. 3 strikes and you're out. --jerry >>
Where does it say 3 strikes? All I see is this: Note: If a buyer gets too many strikes in too short a time period, their account will be suspended indefinitely. In some cases, limits may be placed on the buyerÕs account in advance of suspension. "too many strikes" is a bit nebulous.
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<< <i> Wrongo. 3 strikes and you're out. --jerry >>
Where does it say 3 strikes? All I see is this: Note: If a buyer gets too many strikes in too short a time period, their account will be suspended indefinitely. In some cases, limits may be placed on the buyerÕs account in advance of suspension. "too many strikes" is a bit nebulous. >>
It used to be 3, they may have changed it. Bottom line is, a "deadbeat" buyer doesn't bother me much. He doesn't steal anything from me. The deadbeat sellers are the ones who take your money and runs. --Jerry
Do you suppose he notified the seller he wasn't going to pay?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Do you have an auction number?
Is this the auction? >>
I hope not. That one only ended three days ago.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Ok, Had a moment and took a closer look. He is a seller with that account as well. So, who knows if he is trying to run up prices, or wait for them to go up, then flip...? He has also bought from my stalker on the boards.....I >>
Hey bochi? Wanna go another round this weekend? It isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man but if you insist? Perhaps your ego has expanded to where your wit should be...Is it ego or just your only available defence to interpret me pointing out your daily incompetence as stalking. BTW, I ignore most of it. For example, when you called the guy the wrong name this morning, it had nothing to do with your typing skills. It is your reading skills. you don't bother to read enough to understand the issues before you start pontificating. --Jerry
These deadbeat buyers take up a sellers valuable time. Chasing after them for payment or just trying to open up some communication can take weeks or more. And they take away the timely use of money that a seller could have had, if they had not outbid a legit buyer.
Now with the new EBAY rules, if they dont like it that a seller is looking for closure, they can neg the seller who cant neg them back.
<< <i>Deadbeat buyers have no place being allowed to participate in an auction. These deadbeat buyers take up a sellers valuable time. Chasing after them for payment or just trying to open up some communication can take weeks or more. And they take away the timely use of money that a seller could have had, if they had not outbid a legit buyer. Now with the new EBAY rules, if they dont like it that a seller is looking for closure, they can neg the seller who cant neg them back. >>
EXACTLY!! Sending reminders for payment over and over is like pulling teeth. And then the process of filing an unpaid item claim is like getting your 'nads scraped against a cheese grater.
I think I'd like some more information before blocking someone that does spend a lot of money on eBay other than just a "He didn't pay me and he has a strike".
Is there a method for looking up NPB strikes?
The name is LEE!
then find out that the other half was needed.
Not saying the OP is doing anything bad.
Just in general.
Steve
<< <i>Yes getting more info would be the prudent thing to do, so many times we get half a story
then find out that the other half was needed.
Not saying the OP is doing anything bad.
Just in general.
Steve >>
Quite often we get much less than half a story.
<< <i> EXACTLY!! Sending reminders for payment over and over is like pulling teeth. And then the process of filing an unpaid item claim is like getting your 'nads scraped against a cheese grater. >>
I'll go out on a limb and draw a conclusion here: You do not have what it takes to work in sales. --Jerry
edit: PS Sales aren't for everybody. I'm not saying you're incompetent or anything like that.
<< <i>I cannot see how some feel that this bidder is an OK guy. >>
At this point, we really don't know one way or the other.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>In any other auction format other than EBAY. If a buyer welches. That buyer would be thrown off immediately and blacklisted. I cannot see how some feel that this bidder is an OK guy. >>
Care to show where someone said he is an OK guy???
<< <i>What was the auction number and when did it end????? >>
Why do you care?
Yes, I did jump the gun.
It will take until June 11th before I get my FVF refunded and I can trully say he didn't pay.
I wanted to give you all a heads up. Don't block him if you don't want to.
Does ANYONE think this guy is going to shell out over $15,000 for the more than 40 auctions he's won ?
I didn't take put his name up lightly, but I felt it was the right thing to do, so you all wont be taken advantage of.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>What was the auction number and when did it end????? >>
Why do you care? >>
<< <i>So, you had a buyer who won an auction three days ago and you're posting a thread accusing him of being a deadbeat simply because he's won a lot recently? I have a regular buyer who spends in excess of $500,000 a year buying coins on eBay.
Russ, NCNE >>
Yep, my mistake. Thought I might be helping out. I was wrong.
I'll post on June 11 with an update.
<< <i>Ah, a self-portrait, at least we all now know what you look like....
ksteelheader>>>>>
<< <i>Yes, that is the auction.
Yes, I did jump the gun.
It will take until June 11th before I get my FVF refunded and I can trully say he didn't pay.
I wanted to give you all a heads up. Don't block him if you don't want to.
Does ANYONE think this guy is going to shell out over $15,000 for the more than 40 auctions he's won ?
I didn't take put his name up lightly, but I felt it was the right thing to do, so you all wont be taken advantage of. >>
Well, I guess I still don't understand. Did he notify you that he was not going to pay and had bid out of turn or what?
Just because someone has $15,000 in wins over 40 auctions in a month does not necessarily mean he won't pay. IMO, three days is not a real big time frame to declare that someone should be blocked because they didn't pay.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Given the most recent info. The auction ending only 3 days ago-I take back my prior statement. Possibly the buyer is OK. >>
I would assume that your initial response was ok given the information that was provided but there just seems to be too many holes in a one sided story to just "Block a Bidder".
The name is LEE!
I usually thank winning bidders, send an invoice and then just wait. On or about the 5th day, if I've heard nothing, I send a friendly reminder to pay. This usually does work but if it does not, don't pester anyone. Just keep monitoring their activity and if it gets way out of hand & is apparent that he's not paying, again just work with T&S but don't keep bugging the buyer.
After 10 complete days, with no communication at all going down, I then file an unpaid item report and ebay takes over. If things are blatantly obvious, as was the case with 2007accordfreak, eBay will forego the 3 strike deal and NARU said ebayer immediately. The Key is eBay noting that an ebayer is NOT paying MULTIPLE sellers over a 10 day period. This guy didn't last 3 weeks. In his case he used up all his strikes at once due to the sheer #s he hadn't paid!
Good Luck with future transactions.
<< <i>Yes, that is the auction.
Yes, I did jump the gun.
It will take until June 11th before I get my FVF refunded and I can trully say he didn't pay.
I wanted to give you all a heads up. Don't block him if you don't want to.
Does ANYONE think this guy is going to shell out over $15,000 for the more than 40 auctions he's won ?
I didn't take put his name up lightly, but I felt it was the right thing to do, so you all wont be taken advantage of. >>
When one of the auctions is for 5 rolls of SAEs, that is a few grand right there. Some people have more money than others.....I wouldn't worry about the person having won over $15,000 currently, as he may have the money and/or may already have buyers (unless it is for him).
What about if someone decided to collect seated dollars and won 5 on ebay within a few days of each other? That may be 5 figures right there, depending. There are people on here that could spend $15,000 on one coin and not flinch....may not buy on ebay but they may if they saw a coin they wanted.
I look for other patterns before just jumping to conclusions. So far, he has had 97 feedback at 100%, as of the time you posted the OP.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>You need to just be patient and ride the customary 10 day wait period out. If, as was the case with 2007accordfreak who has now been NARU'd, you see that someone is WINNING tons of listings but not paying as his feedback is not in proportion to wins - then I would still be cordial but keep an eye on the ebayer and call it to T&S' attention.
I usually thank winning bidders, send an invoice and then just wait. On or about the 5th day, if I've heard nothing, I send a friendly reminder to pay. This usually does work but if it does not, don't pester anyone. Just keep monitoring their activity and if it gets way out of hand & is apparent that he's not paying, again just work with T&S but don't keep bugging the buyer.
After 10 complete days, with no communication at all going down, I then file an unpaid item report and ebay takes over. If things are blatantly obvious, as was the case with 2007accordfreak, eBay will forego the 3 strike deal and NARU said ebayer immediately. The Key is eBay noting that an ebayer is NOT paying MULTIPLE sellers over a 10 day period. This guy didn't last 3 weeks. In his case he used up all his strikes at once due to the sheer #s he hadn't paid!
Good Luck with future transactions.
Hmm.
Weren't you the person who blocked a bidder via guilt by association?
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<< <i>You need to just be patient and ride the customary 10 day wait period out. If, as was the case with 2007accordfreak who has now been NARU'd, you see that someone is WINNING tons of listings but not paying as his feedback is not in proportion to wins - then I would still be cordial but keep an eye on the ebayer and call it to T&S' attention.
I usually thank winning bidders, send an invoice and then just wait. On or about the 5th day, if I've heard nothing, I send a friendly reminder to pay. This usually does work but if it does not, don't pester anyone. Just keep monitoring their activity and if it gets way out of hand & is apparent that he's not paying, again just work with T&S but don't keep bugging the buyer.
After 10 complete days, with no communication at all going down, I then file an unpaid item report and ebay takes over. If things are blatantly obvious, as was the case with 2007accordfreak, eBay will forego the 3 strike deal and NARU said ebayer immediately. The Key is eBay noting that an ebayer is NOT paying MULTIPLE sellers over a 10 day period. This guy didn't last 3 weeks. In his case he used up all his strikes at once due to the sheer #s he hadn't paid!
Good Luck with future transactions.
Hmm.
Weren't you the person who blocked a bidder via guilt by association? >>
And that has exactly what to do with this situation other than to try and slam a forum member offering advice on this situation? Boom's bidders bid was cancelled so that Boom could investigate. It wasn't a case of the bidder winning an auction.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>You need to just be patient and ride the customary 10 day wait period out. If, as was the case with 2007accordfreak who has now been NARU'd, you see that someone is WINNING tons of listings but not paying as his feedback is not in proportion to wins - then I would still be cordial but keep an eye on the ebayer and call it to T&S' attention.
I usually thank winning bidders, send an invoice and then just wait. On or about the 5th day, if I've heard nothing, I send a friendly reminder to pay. This usually does work but if it does not, don't pester anyone. Just keep monitoring their activity and if it gets way out of hand & is apparent that he's not paying, again just work with T&S but don't keep bugging the buyer.
After 10 complete days, with no communication at all going down, I then file an unpaid item report and ebay takes over. If things are blatantly obvious, as was the case with 2007accordfreak, eBay will forego the 3 strike deal and NARU said ebayer immediately. The Key is eBay noting that an ebayer is NOT paying MULTIPLE sellers over a 10 day period. This guy didn't last 3 weeks. In his case he used up all his strikes at once due to the sheer #s he hadn't paid!
Good Luck with future transactions.
Hmm.
Weren't you the person who blocked a bidder via guilt by association? >>
And that has exactly what to do with this situation other than to try and slam a forum member offering advice on this situation? Boom's bidders bid was cancelled so that Boom could investigate. It wasn't a case of the bidder winning an auction. >>
Well, to your point, 19Lyds, it has plenty to do with it. Looking back at the thread in question Text
it appears that Boom blocked a bidder because he didn't bid enough, and thus, he believed that he couldn't pay. Or that somehow, that just because someone happened to live in the "general area" of a non-paying bidder, that he was entitled to block the bid.
By God! You're right!
Let's derail this thread into a Boom Bash instead of just reading the good advice that was given!
But then I guess you have nothing else constructive to offer other than to trash another forum member?
Sheesh!
The name is LEE!
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By God! You're right!
Let's derail this thread into a Boom Bash instead of just reading the good advice that was given!
But then I guess you have nothing else constructive to offer other than to trash another forum member?
Sheesh! >>
Well, I apologize for causing too much harm.
What can I say? My philosophy is just to be patient and wait a while for the bidder to pay.
I just found it ironic that someone would give advice when one does not necessarily follow it.
Mike
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By God! You're right!
Let's derail this thread into a Boom Bash instead of just reading the good advice that was given!
But then I guess you have nothing else constructive to offer other than to trash another forum member?
Sheesh! >>
Well, I apologize for causing too much harm.
What can I say? My philosophy is just to be patient and wait a while for the bidder to pay.
I just found it ironic that someone would give advice when one does not necessarily follow it.
Mike >>
He didn;t then but he may now but again, thats not the topis of this thread.
Too bad this ebay user doesn't come on and give his side of the story. We still do not know what prompted the thread other than the buyer hadn't paid in three days.
edited to remove ebay userid.
The name is LEE!
The buyer did pay and also mentioned that someone FROM THIS BOARD emailed him and told him about my post. So there you go, lesson learned.
Does anyone have the guts to admit it was them ???
<< <i>The buyer did pay and also mentioned that someone FROM THIS BOARD emailed him and told him about my post. So there you go, lesson learned.
Does anyone have the guts to admit it was them ??? >>
Wasn't me as I have no dog in this fight but I am curious....you say "lesson learned". Who's lesson? His, for not paying initially and then being contacted? Yours, for posting and not expecting how the thread would turn out? The person who contacted him?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment