I believe that I went 1 for 7. I bid on this Swiss city view taler. It only had 1 bidder, so I hope it was me floor bid that I submitted through their website.
What about the "killer" silver groschen? Hard to win with so many serious buyers bidding although I probably set a record for the most money ever spent on a 1866 Frankfurt 6 kreuzer listed here
Blood in the streets! Oy! By the time I figured out how to get a bid in from my desk at home, I'd already been tromped by the folks on the floor. Lovely coin, though...
Maybe next year...
I never pay too much for my tokens...but every now and then I may buy them too soon.
Proud (but humbled) "You Suck" Designee, February 2010.
Larry Goldberg hosted a party for many out of town dealers the night before Millenia. Both US and foreign dealers there.
It was standing room only for much of the day of Millenia. The bidding often involved 1 to 2 people, sometimes 3, 4, or more, but in all cases the prices realized were high and new records set. I am not sure if having an NGC coin with Millenia on it, as all coins out of this auction do, will be a good thing or a bad thing. Some dealers were disgusted with prices realized and thought them stupid.
I asked several dealers if they thought the results of this auction would be 'sticky' , that is have an overall upward impact on prices on the bourse and elsewhere for nice foreign coins. Most answered no. They suggested things will return to normal and it would take awhile for prices to ascend to the Millenia level. I really don't know.
I manage money. I earn money. I save money . I give away money. I collect money. I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
I agree about the Japanese, nothing got my fancy there.
<< <i>so I hope it was me floor bid that I submitted through their website >>
I know what you mean! I faxed in an absentee bid sheet with some outrageous max's on two coins, and they sold to the 'floor bidder' at much under what I put down. Either I got them and they were pretty darned honest about not pushing me to my max, or they forgot about my bids! We'll see.
It looks like you guys were looking at some pretty cool coins though!
I got the NGC Finest MS66 US-PI 1927M 5 Centavos, though PCGS has one MS66 and one MS67 (currently in the JustHavingFun collection). This was part of a two coin lot that included an NGC MS66 McArthur 50 Centavos, which I plan to sell post haste. However, I would not have won if JustHavingFun didn't show pity and agree to not bid, unless the bidding passed my maximum, which I told to him. Thanks JHF! Even so, it went to 90% of my maximum, with an opening bid higher than the Goldberg high estimate. With 15% commission plus California sales tax, it will set me back a little under a grand, but I am happy. When it arrives, I'll try to post a pic.
Yea, new marriage and too much excitement kept me out of this one. Still, fun to think if our pieces of similar quality in our own collections being "worth" those figures! NOT!!!
Well, not a player hater and wish I could have been there to at least watch...
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
If I'd saved hard all year, I would have got both the 12800 Reis I wanted, which I missed, AND anything lets say the 1818 Proof Sov
Bugger. I didn't bid hard for fears of not being able to pay. It was OBVIOUSLY going to be hardcore bidding, all the big boys were out to play.. all the nice coins remaining from the Terner collection.. no reason to complain for premium prices.
What about the "killer" silver groschen? Hard to win with so many serious buyers bidding although I probably set a record for the most money ever spent on a 1866 Frankfurt 6 kreuzer listed here >>
<< <i>I agree about the Japanese, nothing got my fancy there.
<< <i>so I hope it was me floor bid that I submitted through their website >>
I know what you mean! I faxed in an absentee bid sheet with some outrageous max's on two coins, and they sold to the 'floor bidder' at much under what I put down. Either I got them and they were pretty darned honest about not pushing me to my max, or they forgot about my bids! We'll see.
Cathy >>
Cathy,
I sincerely hope that you won the coins that you've bid on. However, I would advise you to bid online the next time. If you have won anything by them in the past, you already have your own unique bidder number which you must add to your online bidsheet. If you don't know what this number is, all you need to do is call customer service and they will be happy to give it to you straight away. In this online world that we live, faxing bid sheets sounds old fashioned and risky, because you don't get an online (or any other) confirmation that your bids have been received and accepted.Best of luck anyway!
I was a little worried (but I called and confirmed just now ). I do have a bidder number with them from previous auctions which helps.
If I understood their rules correctly if I were to mail or place an internet bid then the starting price on the floor was taken as the second highest of the all the mail/internet bids. By placing an absentee bid it would work more like the ebay model in that they would 'floor bid' up to my max from whatever starting price they otherwise came up with.
If I bid via ebay then it was a 20% buyer's premium, but only 15% going straight through them so I didn't want to go the ebay route.
I think it worked the way I wanted. I had won from them in previous auctions by bidding directly with them on the internet, and the winning price was never lower than what I typed in--either coincidence, or more likely what I failed to appreciate before, that my bids were possibly setting the bar for the starting price.
This time I gambled and placed actual absentee bids and won for FAR less than I listed as my maximum (both hammered at about 60% of what I gave as a max). I was pretty sure it was way too much, but I didn't want to not get the two coins. I also didn't want my bid to be the default starting price .
If nothing else it was a great testament to the honesty of the Goldberg company .
As I recall they are SLOW with the invoices so now I will sit and wait to find out if the coins look as good in person as they did on the screen. I should know better than to buy coins based just on images, but I REAALLY wanted them. So much so that there will be some stuff hitting ebay soon....
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I bid $2,600 (pre-bid with Goldberg, not ebay)
<< <i>I got my butt kicked
I bid $2,600 (pre-bid with Goldberg, not ebay) >>
What about the "killer" silver groschen?
By the time I figured out how to get a bid in from my desk
at home, I'd already been tromped by the folks on the floor.
Lovely coin, though...
Maybe next year...
Proud (but humbled) "You Suck" Designee, February 2010.
<< <i>Blood in the streets! Oy!
By the time I figured out how to get a bid in from my desk
at home, I'd already been tromped by the folks on the floor.
<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=320247625961&rd=1" target=blank>Lovely coin,</A> though...
Maybe next year... >>
The new owner of that coin is a member here, although he doesn't post often.3Mark
<< <i>Any good stories or buys? >>
Phhhhbbbbbbt!
Virtually no Japanese material and what there was either duplicated something already in my collection, or was well beyond my budget.
It was standing room only for much of the day of Millenia. The bidding often involved 1 to 2 people, sometimes 3, 4, or more, but in all cases the prices realized were high and new records set. I am not sure if having an NGC coin with Millenia on it, as all coins out of this auction do, will be a good thing or a bad thing.
I asked several dealers if they thought the results of this auction would be 'sticky' , that is have an overall upward impact on prices on the bourse and elsewhere for nice foreign coins. Most answered no. They suggested things will return to normal and it would take awhile for prices to ascend to the Millenia level. I really don't know.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>so I hope it was me floor bid that I submitted through their website >>
I know what you mean! I faxed in an absentee bid sheet with some outrageous max's on two coins, and they sold to the 'floor bidder' at much under what I put down. Either I got them and they were pretty darned honest about not pushing me to my max, or they forgot about my bids! We'll see.
It looks like you guys were looking at some pretty cool coins though!
Cathy
World Collection
British Collection
German States Collection
Well, not a player hater and wish I could have been there to at least watch...
Well, just Love coins, period.
The 2 coins I WANTED / NEEDED to complete a type set, caught me at a bad time financially..
<pouting>
If I'd saved hard all year, I would have got both the 12800 Reis I wanted, which I missed, AND anything lets say the 1818 Proof Sov
Bugger. I didn't bid hard for fears of not being able to pay. It was OBVIOUSLY going to be hardcore bidding, all the big boys were out to play.. all the nice coins remaining from the Terner collection.. no reason to complain for premium prices.
<< <i>
<< <i>I got my butt kicked
I bid $2,600 (pre-bid with Goldberg, not ebay) >>
What about the "killer" silver groschen?
WOW WHAT A SET bad luck
<< <i>I agree about the Japanese, nothing got my fancy there.
<< <i>so I hope it was me floor bid that I submitted through their website >>
I know what you mean! I faxed in an absentee bid sheet with some outrageous max's on two coins, and they sold to the 'floor bidder' at much under what I put down. Either I got them and they were pretty darned honest about not pushing me to my max, or they forgot about my bids! We'll see.
Cathy >>
Cathy,
I sincerely hope that you won the coins that you've bid on. However, I would advise you to bid online the next time. If you have won anything by them in the past, you already have your own unique bidder number which you must add to your online bidsheet. If you don't know what this number is, all you need to do is call customer service and they will be happy to give it to you straight away. In this online world that we live, faxing bid sheets sounds old fashioned and risky, because you don't get an online (or any other) confirmation that your bids have been received and accepted.Best of luck anyway!
myEbay
DPOTD 3
If I understood their rules correctly if I were to mail or place an internet bid then the starting price on the floor was taken as the second highest of the all the mail/internet bids. By placing an absentee bid it would work more like the ebay model in that they would 'floor bid' up to my max from whatever starting price they otherwise came up with.
If I bid via ebay then it was a 20% buyer's premium, but only 15% going straight through them so I didn't want to go the ebay route.
I think it worked the way I wanted. I had won from them in previous auctions by bidding directly with them on the internet, and the winning price was never lower than what I typed in--either coincidence, or more likely what I failed to appreciate before, that my bids were possibly setting the bar for the starting price.
This time I gambled and placed actual absentee bids and won for FAR less than I listed as my maximum (both hammered at about 60% of what I gave as a max). I was pretty sure it was way too much, but I didn't want to not get the two coins. I also didn't want my bid to be the default starting price
If nothing else it was a great testament to the honesty of the Goldberg company
As I recall they are SLOW with the invoices so now I will sit and wait to find out if the coins look as good in person as they did on the screen. I should know better than to buy coins based just on images, but I REAALLY wanted them. So much so that there will be some stuff hitting ebay soon....
<< <i>... great Brunswick Mining Talers in the auction too! >>
That was the truth. Those mining talers were amazing.
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It sounds like your bids were 2x high estimate or more, glad it turned out well