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I was just curious why my auctions got cancled because I listed the PCGS price guide for my PCGS coins in the description. If you look at this auction on Ebay by Heritage it has pricing in their description which is the same reason why mine got cannned. image

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  • The Heritage auction lists the Numismedia wholsale price guide not the PCGS price guide.
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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    You are certainly permitted to reference the PCGS price guide for PCGS coins. Ebay staff cannot interpret the rules consistently.

    Susan McMillan mcmillan@money.org of the ANA would like to hear about ebay's coin policy stupidity, since the ANA board is very concerned that
    eBay is using "blame the ANA" for all of their stupid actions. I'd let PCGS know about it also.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Not to worry. eBay is going to kill all of Heritage's Live auctions soon enough.

    Russ, NCNE


  • << <i>The Heritage auction lists the Numismedia wholsale price guide not the PCGS price guide. >>



    According the Ebay rules, you are not allowed to use any declared price or price guides in your heading or description. I used a PCGS price guide for years for all my coins and I just had about 25 coins which were PCGS coins, to get canned.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>The Heritage auction lists the Numismedia wholsale price guide not the PCGS price guide. >>



    According the Ebay rules, you are not allowed to use any declared price or price guides in your heading or description. I used a PCGS price guide for years for all my coins and I just had about 25 coins which were PCGS coins, to get canned. >>



    You can't list a price for RAW coins. You can list prices for "approved" slabs.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • Here is a copy of Ebay rules.


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    << <i>The Heritage auction lists the Numismedia wholsale price guide not the PCGS price guide. >>



    According the Ebay rules, you are not allowed to use any declared price or price guides in your heading or description. I used a PCGS price guide for years for all my coins and I just had about 25 coins which were PCGS coins, to get canned. >>



    You can't list a price for RAW coins. You can list prices for "approved" slabs. >>



    All the coins I had listed were in PCGS slabs. I tried to email Ebay and they gave no response to the matter.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Frank is right, and the eBay Kmart reject drones are wrong.

    Russ, NCNE
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Frank is right, and the eBay Kmart reject drones are wrong.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    According to another forum, ebay picked today, Memorial Day, to end all the auctions of a disabled vet's ( DISVETJIM) NGC and PCGS coins for
    not showing the full reverse of the slab. Of course, the ebay rules say that both sides of THE COIN IN THE SLAB must be shown, which he did,
    along with the slab label and serial number.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com


  • << <i>Here is a copy of Ebay rules. >>



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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    The answer is clear. E-Bay does allow certain people to play by different rules.

    Here is thier answer to my question about Heritage Key Word Spamming. Not that the answer makes sensem but then again, look at who answered the question. They answer a spamming quesiton with an answer about authenticity. Go Figure.

    Thank you for writing eBay in regard to coins in violation of eBay
    policy.

    The Live Auctions site is a specialty area within eBay. Items listed in
    Live Auctions are actually for sale in an international auction house.
    These auction houses are vetted by eBay and are allowed to list a wide
    variety of items on eBay.

    Because these auction houses actually handle the auction and possess the
    item, eBay has given some latitude to the auction houses listing items
    with regard to eBay policies surrounding authenticity. Most auction
    houses employ experts in a variety of fields in order to authenticate
    and evaluate the items the auction house puts on the auction block. For
    this reason, auction houses may be exempt from certain listing policies
    when putting their items in the Live Auctions categories on eBay.

    Thank you for your time.
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  • << <i>The answer is clear. E-Bay does allow certain people to play by different rules.

    Here is thier answer to my question about Heritage Key Word Spamming. Not that the answer makes sensem but then again, look at who answered the question. They answer a spamming quesiton with an answer about authenticity. Go Figure.

    Thank you for writing eBay in regard to coins in violation of eBay
    policy.

    The Live Auctions site is a specialty area within eBay. Items listed in
    Live Auctions are actually for sale in an international auction house.
    These auction houses are vetted by eBay and are allowed to list a wide
    variety of items on eBay.

    Because these auction houses actually handle the auction and possess the
    item, eBay has given some latitude to the auction houses listing items
    with regard to eBay policies surrounding authenticity. Most auction
    houses employ experts in a variety of fields in order to authenticate
    and evaluate the items the auction house puts on the auction block. For
    this reason, auction houses may be exempt from certain listing policies
    when putting their items in the Live Auctions categories on eBay.

    Thank you for your time. >>


    Makes sense. Also as of the end of 2008 there will no longer be 'eBay Live auctions':

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  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557
    Like I said in another thread... if any other seller had the feedback that Heritage has, they would have long since been yanked...
    -George
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks to me that you cannot state a price for raw/uncertified coins.

    Any auction that is cancelled because PCGS Price guide values were stated should be given listing fee credit.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Because these auction houses actually handle the auction and possess the
    item, eBay has given some latitude to the auction houses listing items
    with regard to eBay policies surrounding authenticity. >>



    Huh? Last time I checked, all of us meet that criteria. image

    Russ, NCNE


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    << <i>Because these auction houses actually handle the auction and possess the
    item, eBay has given some latitude to the auction houses listing items
    with regard to eBay policies surrounding authenticity. >>



    Huh? Last time I checked, all of us meet that criteria. image

    Russ, NCNE >>


    My understanding is since the pieces handled by major auction firms are vetted by the experts they employ, eBay allows them more latitude just any seller claiming the same.
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  • TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Somebody probably reported one of your auctions to the EBAY drones, prompting these drones to check all your auctions. There are quite a few forum members here who like to report any minor infraction of the EBAY rules to EBAY. Watch out for these squealers.
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    << <i>Somebody probably reported one of your auctions to the EBAY drones, prompting these drones to check all your auctions. There are quite a few forum members here who like to report any minor infraction of the EBAY rules to EBAY. Watch out for these squealers. >>



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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    My understanding is since the pieces handled by major auction firms are vetted by the experts they employ, eBay allows them more latitude just any seller claiming the same. >>



    But the only ACTUAL qualification is that you pay ebay $1500 per live auction, which allows the seller to list up to 10,000 items. There is no requirement that
    the seller be any more of an "expert" than an ordinary seller.

    Link
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com


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    << <i>
    My understanding is since the pieces handled by major auction firms are vetted by the experts they employ, eBay allows them more latitude just any seller claiming the same. >>



    But the only ACTUAL qualification is that you pay ebay $1500 per live auction, which allows the seller to list up to 10,000 items. There is no requirement that
    the seller be any more of an "expert" than an ordinary seller.

    Link >>


    I see the difficulty of the double standard in your example. perhaps that is a reason why eBay has decided to end eBay Live auctions at the end of 2008.
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