Is It Time for a Design Change for the ASE?

halfhunter

The American Silver eagle is now in its 23rd mintage year. The Treasury Secretary can change the design after 25 years without Congressional approval.

With the ASE being the largest "coin" struck by the Mint, it would seem to make a great palatte for an annually changing design.
Since modern artist can't seem to come with great designs, I was thinking maybe recycling some of the best libertys from eariler coinage or maybe patterns that didn't make it.

Imagine the SLQ Liberty recreated in this larger format or the Peace $ Liberty with higher, fully struck relief. . .
Maybe the Amazonian, School Girl, and SLQ patterns etc.

What ya'll think?

Regards, John

bigmansam88

That would be cool, but I couldn't see it happening.

TwoSides2aCoin

we saw what happened with the last change

One letter made all the difference " U" know what I mean ?

Just boosting your thread. I agree that change is good.

LindeDad

Got to say that is a very ugly Eagle IMO.
Leave the Walker on the obverse and get something like the eagle on the Sacagawea dollar on the reverse.
Just my thought’s over coffee on a cool morning.

mach19

I will go along with this. Who knows, maybe the mint would place the wrong die's on the reverse, AGAIN

INXS

I am in favor of a change but I don't think the US Mint has the artistic capabilities to design a great looking replacement. They have to start thinking outside of the box. First change I see where they were going in the right direction was the 09 High Relief but now it looks like no gold only Palladium. They had a good thing and then they went back and buggered it up.

Konahead

I would love to see that happen, new reverse every year

Coinsponge

I wish they would just shrink it and use it as a circulating coinage instead of the cheap pot metal they use now for coinage.

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>I wish they would just shrink it and use it as a circulating coinage instead of the cheap pot metal they use now for coinage. >>



Well we could buy the paper dollar back that way

DJCoinz

I would like to see a new reverse.

Coinsponge

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<< <i>I wish they would just shrink it and use it as a circulating coinage instead of the cheap pot metal they use now for coinage. >>



Well we could buy the paper dollar back that way >>




How about a 1/10 oz with a face of $5? Silver would have to be $50 before the melting pots fire up.

57loaded

the obverse is 100% class and classic

better IMHO than anything else, silver

57loaded

<< <i>I would love to see that happen, new reverse every year >>



i could go for that, but it might precipitate a whole new "variety", "error", "type"...then that can't be bad, can it?

BECOKA

I'm all for a yearly chaning reverse. Heck I would not even mind if they just used the reverse from the Platinums every year.

The Obverse on the other hand needs to be changed and it needs a lot of time and consideration put into it. We need a timeless design but it has to be unique too.

planetsteve

<< <i>... First change I see where they were going in the right direction was the 09 High Relief but now it looks like no gold only Palladium. They had a good thing and then they went back and buggered it up. >>





I totally missed this -- was there a change in the plan for a HR Saint? Changing the metal?

I don't care for the reverse of the ASE either. I also have some complaint with reusing old designs. The Walker is one of my two favorite US series (the other, the Merc), but I think that too much is lost in resurrecting the walking Liberty, or the Buffalo and its Indian -- at least in silver. The new versions look like they have lower relief, less detail and just look sterile.

Perhaps part of the problem is the Mint's superlative consistency these days; there's no joy in looking for great strikes as there is for the original 20th c. issues. Still, I think we can do better. I think that most of the commemorative Platinum designs have been very attractive. How about giving the silver and gold bullion a changing reverse as well?

There is one other concern with design changes that I can imagine. Note that the regular Platinum bullion coins have had the same reverse since their inception. My bet is that a consistent and universally recognized design is critical for an internationally traded bullion coin. We can change the collector versions each year, but the reverses should stay the same for the investors. Help me out -- do countries like China, Australia and Great Britain use this practice?

coindudeonebay

Mercury wouldn't be bad either!

adamlaneus

Is there an advantage to modifying the ASE series as opposed to introducing a new US Mint silver ounce series that does vary every year?

Aren't some types of bullion utterly monotonous from year to year...
And other types change from year to year.

If the idea is to appeal to a broader base of bullion collectors, then look at what the RCM has done:
There are folks that collect those silver maple leaf hologram coins because they change from year to year...and there are folks that acquire basic silver maple leaf coins every year that don't have a design change. And the RCM even does a little privy thing for conservative folks wanting a conservative collection, but with at least something other than a date to distinguish between coins.

How about straight-up ASEs every year, and a new series for the artier folks.

Seeing as the ASE currently reflects the walking liberty on the half dollar...
Perhaps the new series could have obverses that vary through all of the various US coinage, and reverses newly created by mint artists?

Personally, I like the monotony of ASE bullion and if we have a new design, i'd like to see that in a related series but not a replacement.

And it would be interesting to try to design a coin series for maximum likelyhood of mint workers getting the wrong dies installed on a stamping machine or something like that.

57loaded

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I don't care for the reverse of the ASE either. I also have some complaint with reusing old designs. The Walker is one of my two favorite US series (the other, the Merc), but I think that too much is lost in resurrecting the walking Liberty, or the Buffalo and its Indian -- at least in silver. The new versions look like they have lower relief, less detail and just look sterile.

Perhaps part of the problem is the Mint's superlative consistency these days; there's no joy in looking for great strikes as there is for the original 20th c. issues. Still, I think we can do better. I think that most of the commemorative Platinum designs have been very attractive. How about giving the silver and gold bullion a changing reverse as well?

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i would say that yes the walkers are superlative, the ASE's have resurrected the greatest obverse used on a silver coin, i'm not being confrontational but what would you like to see on an ASE obverse? i agree with your statements.

planetsteve

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i would say that yes the walkers are superlative, the ASE's have resurrected the greatest obverse used on a silver coin, i'm not being confrontational but what would you like to see on an ASE obverse? i agree with your statements. >>



Britannia? Honestly, I don't know. That doesn't stop me from critiquing, tho.

CoinHusker

I think your SLQ design is a great idea. Bare breast though, not chain mail.

Send your idea to the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee and to Rep. Castle. He seems to like introducing new coin legislation.

Overdate

I'd like to keep the ASE obverse and change the reverse to the original Walker design.

I don't know why they didn't do that in the first place!

lope208

We could leave the bullion versions alone and just change the UNC and PRF versions for collectors each year.