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Opinions Please! Just The Difference Between "Good" And "Bad" Scanning Abilities

Is the difference between the two (2) scans pictured below nothing more than the difference between "good" and "bad" scanning abilities? Or do you think there is some funny business going on here? Please note the following:

1. Dark black line around the top of the baseball cap;
2. The white "mark" to the right of the bill of the baseball cap;
3. Upper left corner of the card;
4. The two white "dots" below the right ear.

Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

/s/ JackWESQ

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Enhanced scanning is the way of the catalog-world.

    The actual card may indeed look somewhere midway between the two extremes.
    Probably not as bad as the bad scan, and definitely not as good as the GREAT scan.
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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Enhanced scanning is the way of the catalog-world.

    The actual card may indeed look somewhere midway between the two extremes.
    Probably not as bad as the bad scan, and definitely not as good as the GREAT scan. >>



    Exactly - look at the Red in the PSA Flip - that's been brightened too, so not all of the enhancement is photoshop, much of it is just a much better scanner.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Is the difference between the two (2) scans pictured below nothing more than the difference between "good" and "bad" scanning abilities? Or do you think there is some funny business going on here? Please note the following:

    1. Dark black line around the top of the baseball cap;
    2. The white "mark" to the right of the bill of the baseball cap;
    3. Upper left corner of the card;
    4. The two white "dots" below the right ear.

    Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

    /s/ JackWESQ >>



    I have over 10 years of photoshop and imaging background. Here is my opinion. Todays scanners leave the door open for almost anything for the non-experienced scanner and the experienced scanners can do anything. For example, I recently purchased an Epson V500 scanner and it has 3 modes and it has several different photo restore modes. It will give you completely different results if you don't understand or have the experience in the different modes. That being said, I personally feel the second card or the lower card has been altered, or had some type of restoring to it. Also, your mention of "#2. The white "mark" to the right of the bill of the baseball cap"; I feel the white mark is not coming up in photo #2. Those type of marks or blems can be removed in seconds using the clone tool. I personally sold an antique fishing lure collection over the last year on ebay and did use photoshop to fix my photos, but it was only to remove extra glare in the lures that were not actually in the lure...So I only made them look how they really were, and I self hosted photos that were usually 500 to 600 pixels wide to ensure great purchases for the buyer. Every buyer left my 5 star ratings and my feedback is 100% dating back to 2003.

    I personally agree with Storm, I would think the first scan might be more realistic but it might look in between the two photos. Are the two scans from the same seller? Either way, I would ask for a larger image.

    Brian
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Enhanced scanning is the way of the catalog-world.

    The actual card may indeed look somewhere midway between the two extremes.
    Probably not as bad as the bad scan, and definitely not as good as the GREAT scan. >>




    Agreed


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    << <i> Is the difference between the two (2) scans pictured below nothing more than the difference between "good" and "bad" scanning abilities? Or do you think there is some funny business going on here? Please note the following:

    1. Dark black line around the top of the baseball cap;
    2. The white "mark" to the right of the bill of the baseball cap;
    3. Upper left corner of the card;
    4. The two white "dots" below the right ear.

    Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

    /s/ JackWESQ >>



    I have over 10 years of photoshop and imaging background. Here is my opinion. Todays scanners leave the door open for almost anything for the non-experienced scanner and the experienced scanners can do anything. For example, I recently purchased an Epson V500 scanner and it has 3 modes and it has several different photo restore modes. It will give you completely different results if you don't understand or have the experience in the different modes. That being said, I personally feel the second card or the lower card has been altered, or had some type of restoring to it. Also, your mention of "#2. The white "mark" to the right of the bill of the baseball cap"; I feel the white mark is not coming up in photo #2. Those type of marks or blems can be removed in seconds using the clone tool. I personally sold an antique fishing lure collection over the last year on ebay and did use photoshop to fix my photos, but it was only to remove extra glare in the lures that were not actually in the lure...So I only made them look how they really were, and I self hosted photos that were usually 500 to 600 pixels wide to ensure great purchases for the buyer. Every buyer left my 5 star ratings and my feedback is 100% dating back to 2003.

    I personally agree with Storm, I would think the first scan might be more realistic but it might look in between the two photos. Are the two scans from the same seller? Either way, I would ask for a larger image.

    Brian >>



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  • ElemenopeoElemenopeo Posts: 2,577 ✭✭

    I think it's possible the second scan is not enhanced at all, but is simply just a better scan. The white spot to the right of the bill that disappeared may have been a smudge on the scanner or something easily wiped away on the slab. And the color of the flip looks OK to me... certainly more true to life than the burgundy colored flip on the first.

    Here's a scan of a card I recently purchased as it appeared in the eBay listing...


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    And here's the scan I made of the same card on my own scanner using no special method or fancy tricks or toying with it all in Photoshop... The colors are a dead-on match to how they appear in person. And the white dots on the bathing suit in the first scan must have been on the scanner or the slab because they're not on the card.


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  • DrJDrJ Posts: 2,213
    There are no alterations going on just a better scanner. Altering a PSA 5 card to look a little better really does nothing to increase the final sales price.
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