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Krugerrands used to buy Florida house

SARASOTA — Realtors will tell you that nearly anything both parties agree to can be written into a residential purchase contract.

Krugerrands, first minted in 1967, were not allowed into the United States during the 1970s and '80s to protest the South African policy of apartheid, although the ones already here continued to be traded as bullion. When political reforms came to South Africa in the early 1990s, the ban was lifted.

The Krugerrand was the first gold bullion coin to contain one troy ounce and became a world standard for the unit weight of a gold coin.

Developed later were the Canadian Maple Leaf, Chinese Panda, American Gold Eagle and Vienna Philharmonic.

The coin was named after Paul Kruger, the last president of the old South African Republic whose face adorns the coin.

The $400,000 worth used on Monday to buy a Sarasota residence would weigh in at about 37 pounds.
On Monday, Realtor Kim Ogilvie closed a deal with a very interesting twist.

A golden one to be exact.

The buyer of a downtown Sarasota residence that sold for more than $1 million brought a briefcase filled with $400,000 worth of South African Krugerrands to the closing -- that is about 444 of the gold coins. A foreign coin expert was at the closing and verified the coins' authenticity and weight.

"This was a first," Ogilvie acknowledged, adding in Realtor fashion: "It really shows you the depth to which buyers will go to use their resources to acquire properties they think are well-priced."

Despite the big push by Realtors regionwide for international buyers -- and, of course, the foreign-born Krugerrands -- both the buyer and the seller were Americans.

About 20 years ago, Ogilvie was part of a deal where the buyer brought a suitcase of $10,000 to a closing.

But Monday topped that one.

"I represented the seller and were happy to complete the transaction in whatever form they wished to use."

Comments

  • In the early 70's A collector traded his Golden age comic collection for A House
    100% Trade NO cash involved
    A $70K deal if I recall
    That is a unique swap
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow!

    I wonder if the realtor got 24 of them in her commission?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,432 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"This was a first," Ogilvie acknowledged, adding in Realtor fashion: "It really shows you the depth to which buyers will go to use their resources to acquire properties they think are well-priced." >>


    Uh, no, silly realtor. It shows what people will go through to try and avoid paying 28% tax on their bullion investments.
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    i know little about real estate law but if that person had used AGE's instead, would one party benefit by using the denomination on the coin, instead of it's value?
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    In Vietnam people buy and large pay cash or gold for property. The "new" thing is getting a small mortgage. But most folks who do own their own homes pay in gold taels.

    One of my Wifes relatives would NOT accept gold for a property when gold hit $1,000. Took US Dollars that week. Then after it dropped She converted the dollars to gold. Pretty smart huh? image
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    several attorneys specify that actual cash/coin etc. can NOT be brought to a closing.... its a risk for the receiver after he leaves the closing

    lost, robbed, etc...

    and your not fooling anyone, sales are recorded
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942


    << <i>several attorneys specify that actual cash/coin etc. can NOT be brought to a closing.... its a risk for the receiver after he leaves the closing

    lost, robbed, etc...

    and your not fooling anyone, sales are recorded >>



    I wonder how rigid they would be during tough times in the real estate market. If advance arrangements were made to provide
    armed security for the transaction I think it could be done.
  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can bring a rare bottle cap to a closing if the seller agrees to accept it.

    Most escrow cos. specify 'good funds' and define the type of institution that paper can be drawn on. Most buyers wire the funds, thankfully.
    Have a nice day
  • Fast forward to 2011, and your thread title will read "Krugerrand used to buy Florida house" and most people will think the house seller got the better end of the deal.
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i know little about real estate law but if that person had used AGE's instead, would one party benefit by using the denomination on the coin, instead of it's value? >>


    Gold eagles are figured at market value not "face Value" Legally
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure the guy with the $400K in gold bullion will be getting visits from the IRS and Homeland Security. Hopefully he has records of what he paid for the coins and enough left over to pay the 28% in taxes on anything gained.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Something tells me the buyer will not be happy with the realtor when he reads about this deal in the newspaper.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    I hope he didn't buy them for HSN, I think they were selling them a few years ago and they were GOLD PLATED.image


    What about the Tax man, can this guy that bought the house be responsible for not reporting his GOLD?
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Krugerrand's are cool.
    I play with this one every time I am on these boardsimage
    image
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    That's a lot of gold for land property that's going to be underwater in a few years!
    Winner of the Coveted Devil Award June 8th, 2010
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm sure the guy with the $400K in gold bullion will be getting visits from the IRS and Homeland Security. Hopefully he has records of what he paid for the coins and enough left over to pay the 28% in taxes on anything gained.

    roadrunner >>




    For freedoms sake of course

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