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Please Educate Me. What Is A 1968 Topps "Milton Bradley" Nolan Ryan PSA 6

Please educate me. What is a 1968 Topps "Milton Bradley" Nolan Ryan PSA 6 and why did it sell HERE for $1,280.76, e.g., about $1,000.00 more than what a regular PSA 6 commands? Thanks.

/s/ JackWESQ
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  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭
    Milton Bradley put out a game that included some sports cards that essentially the same exact thing EXCEPT you can tell which are Milton Bradley by a much darker colored back. They still have the same Topps copywrite. There used to be a thread here somewhere on it that showed the differences. I think that thread was from a couple of years ago.
  • downtowndowntown Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    I collect Seattle Pilots autographs, 1969 Topps autographs, Signed Mickey Mantle Home Run History cards and have a JC Martin collection (he was my college Baseball coach)
    Doug
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I know it's expensive enough that my snipe failed at $1177.87 and I was mad at myself for not setting it higher. Good for the seller, it went from $500 or so to 1200 or so in a minute. Good seller, everybody ended up happy here I think.
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  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    Ridiculously over-priced, the 1968 MB cards are not that scarce and can often be found still intact in unopened sets and almost always in high grade.

    Heritage recently sold a complete set with the cards, I don't remember the price, but it was way less than what the Ryan went for, and the MB set includes many other stars.
  • I have a Nolan Ryan / Koosman Milton Bradley card graded by Beckett. However, Beckett labeled it as such. Only 9 are in the graded Beckett inventory. I wonder why PSA did not note that it was a Milton Bradley Nolan Ryan rookie? The cards were supplied by Topps, however, they were printed with a brighter color yellow background.

    Is the market really fetching $1280 for this card?...or is it because PSA did not label it properly?

    ......Ebay
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Psa does not label them.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    I don't know about the heritage set but the full game with the sealed cards definately sells for more than 1280 . This was way over priced , just look at all the ryan's that show up on ebay and you will find one and pay the going rate. the cards aren't easy or overly difficult but can be found in dealer inventories or shows. the 1st one that beckett labeled was a 7.5 and it sold for about 650 bucks in mile high a few years ago
  • There are 0 Nolan Ryan Topps Milton Bradley cards on ebay. The Beckett population is only 9 (they label them "1968 Topps Milton Bradley Jerry Koosman-Nolan Ryan"). What would you value this card at? The only one I have seen sell on ebay was this one for $1280 (even though it was not labeled as such)......Milton Bradley Nolan Ryan

    Do you have a link to any others that have sold? I have seen them on a number of wish lists around these here Internet's, but few suppliers.
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    the cards have been long mixed in with regular topps cards as they were not labeled and no one really knew the difference. I witnessed a top ryan collector bought a psa 6 for 400 at a show a year and a half ago and the seller was happy and probably thought he was making a score getting that much for his psa 6. another top ryan collector was looking for one and once it was determined what the distinguishing features were, the one he always had was a milton bradley.

    From Mile High
    435 1968 Topps Milton Bradley #177 Nolan Ryan BVG 7.5 NM+ $793.98
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    crappy scans but this looks like one as well

    auction1
  • That is funny that your buddy had one all along.

    I accidentally bought one on ebay. I bought a lot of ungraded Nolan cards that included the Rookie. I immediately sent it into Beckett because it looked like a fake (due to the border on the front and odd color back). When I got it back and found out it was a Milton Bradley, I really had no idea what I had until I did a little research. I was upset at first, but now I think I actually have something worth more than just the rookie card.

    As far as I can tell, Topps printed a special batch of 1968 cards for the Milton Bradley game pictured below (game came out in 1969). They ended up using a different dye lot on the back for whatever reason and when the cards were cut from the sheet, they were a little off...leaving a strip of the neighboring card on one side.

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  • Yep...that line on the front right is tell-tale. I would expect PSA to start differentiating them now that Beckett has....don't you think?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    No, because PSA does not follow the other companies.

    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>No, because PSA does not follow the other companies.

    Steve >>




    Never say never...
  • bhl2359bhl2359 Posts: 420
    "No, because PSA does not follow the other companies."

    cough cough.. half point grading...cough cough
  • Check it out...Beckett has now labeled/graded a total of 14 cards as the 1968 Topps Milton Bradley variation.

    Tom Seaver 1
    Tommy John 1
    Rod Carew 1
    Mel Stottlemyre 1
    Sal Bando 1
    Jerry Koosman-Nolan Ryan 9

    40 years later, a new card is discovered, and it was right in front of our face the whole time.

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Overrated. They can still be found mixed in old Topps collections and even on Card Show tables. It used to be just a slight color variation on the back.
  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭
    I have a Brooks Robinson Milton Bradley card-I got it from a dealer in the mail from Downtown Boston- I think this guy has a store front-a google search of baseball cards boston might give you a couple of dealers to try if your looking for one....I wish I could think of his name, but I am drawing a blank
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Overrated. They can still be found mixed in old Topps collections and even on Card Show tables. It used to be just a slight color variation on the back. >>



    How many do you have?
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • Here is the whole set of what Topps printed for the Milton Bradley board game.....

    Being a Braves fan, I would like to get a-hold of that Hank A card.

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley

    74 card set.


    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - ANGELS

    24 Bobby Locke

    121 Jimmie Hall

    143 Pete Cimino

    193 Jack Hamilton

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - ASTROS

    57 Dan Schneider

    77 Don Wilson

    128 Rookie Stars Tom Dukes / Alonzo Harris

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - A'S

    18 Mike Hershberger

    38 Tony Pierce

    62 Chuck Dobson

    127 Paul Lindblad

    146 Sal Bando

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - BRAVES

    110 Hank Aaron

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - BREWERS

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - CARDINALS

    68 Ron Willis

    100 Bob Gibson

    117 Lary Jaster

    180 Curt Flood

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - CUBS

    13 Chuck Hartenstein

    60 Ken Holtzman

    119 Ted Savage

    136 Randy Hundley

    179 Bill Stoneman

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - DODGERS

    34 Al Ferrara

    124 Nate Oliver

    168 Dodgers Team

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - EXPOS

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - GIANTS

    85 Gaylord Perry

    107 Juan Marichal Checklist

    185 Tom Haller

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - INDIANS

    16 Lou Piniella

    94 Lee Maye

    176 Bob Allen

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - METS

    45 Tom Seaver

    177 Rookie Stars Nolan Ryan / Jerry Koosman

    191 Dan Frisella

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - ORIOLES

    20 Brooks Robinson

    118 Mark Belanger

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - PADRES

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - PHILLIES

    17 Dick Hall

    81 Larry Jackson

    98 Gary Sutherland

    112 Woody Fryman

    139 Chris Short

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - PIRATES

    19 Juan Pizarro

    36 Rookie Stars Bob Moose / Bob Robertson

    53 Gene Alley

    175 Maury Wills

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - RANGERS

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - RED SOX

    26 Darrell Brandon

    43 Gary Bell

    61 Reggie Smith

    106 Dalton Jones

    155 WS Game 5 Jim Lonborg

    156 WS Game 6 Rico Petrocelli

    189 Bill Landis

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - REDS

    48 Ted Davidson

    74 Milt Pappas

    108 Don Pavletich

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - ROYALS

    49 Ed Brinkman

    66 Casey Cox

    149 Bob Saverine

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - TIGERS

    58 Ed Mathews

    78 Jim Northrup

    113 Rookie Stars Tom Matchick / Darryl Patterson

    129 Mickey Stanley

    -

    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - TWINS

    44 Frank Kostro

    64 Jim Merritt

    80 Rod Carew

    165 Tony Oliva

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - WHITE SOX

    72 Tommy John

    99 Rocky Colavito

    172 Walt Williams

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    1968 Topps Milton Bradley - YANKEES

    89 Jake Gibbs

    105 Al Downing

    120 Mel Stottlemyre

    195 Joe Pepitone

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    7 ERA League Leaders Jim Bunning / Phil Niekro / Chris Short
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I'm not sure but not all cards were inserted into every game.

    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>I'm not sure but not all cards were inserted into every game.

    Steve >>



    It looks like they randomly inserted a "generous supply" of the 74 cards into the each game.
  • It looks like one has found it's way on ebay. BVG 6.5 starting at $650. It has two days left, how much do you think it will go for?
    LINK Anyone ever dealt with prescott sports cards in Mesa Arizona?


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  • << <i>It looks like one has found it's way on ebay. BVG 6.5 starting at $650. It has two days left, how much do you think it will go for?
    LINK Anyone ever dealt with prescott sports cards in Mesa Arizona?


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    Yes I have. You would have no problems dealing w/ him.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Milton Bradley played in '68.
  • Yea...instead of Koosman it has Milton on the card...except, I don't think he was born yet.
  • Ok...he has put the 1968 Ryan / Koosman Milton Bradley up as a Buy it Now for $1250.

    Will it sell in the 30 day auction for full price? If not, what will it sell for under the make an offer?

    (will we be able to find out what it sells for under make an offer?)

    LINK

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I have the exact same card coming back from BVG rated a 3....I was thinking of putting it on Ebay for 99 cents and letting it run wild....would there be any interest if I did??
  • It's sort of like a 1951 Berk Ross Yogi Berra.
  • It is no longer listed...I wonder if it sold for $1250?


  • << <i>I have the exact same card coming back from BVG rated a 3....I was thinking of putting it on Ebay for 99 cents and letting it run wild....would there be any interest if I did?? >>




    Is this you? Cool.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180304843193&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:uslink

    I am thinking about putting a BVG 5.5 up depending on how well yours does. Would you mind sending me a few of your top bidders who don't win when it is over?
  • Well, that Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley PSA 6 sold for $1280.76 on ebay in May. What do you think I will get for my BVG 5.5?

    Ebay Link to Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley
  • slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭
    Booo reserves.

    :-P
  • What is wrong with a reserve?
  • There was a lady on the eBay board last month that posted a thread asking for help with an unopened 1968 Milton Bradley game she found at a garage sale for $10. She said she has an anitques shop and had no idea what the game was worth. I sent her an email offering her $100. She never responded.
  • slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is wrong with a reserve? >>



    With a reserve, as a bidder there's never that chance that you're going to get something for a steal. I'm the high bidder now but if the auction ended I still don't get the item. Not as exciting to know that I'd win but lose.

    That said, I understand your reasoning for using one. I'm just giving you a hard time.


  • << <i>There was a lady on the eBay board last month that posted a thread asking for help with an unopened 1968 Milton Bradley game she found at a garage sale for $10. She said she has an anitques shop and had no idea what the game was worth. I sent her an email offering her $100. She never responded. >>




    She must have wised up. That game sold at Heritage for $6,572.50

    LINK
  • Apperantly she did some research. I suggested on the thread that she send all the cards in to BGS. How much would a BGS 8 or 9 Ryan bring?
  • slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭
    Deleted.

    Haha wrong thread. Sorry.


  • << <i>

    << <i>What is wrong with a reserve? >>



    With a reserve, as a bidder there's never that chance that you're going to get something for a steal. I'm the high bidder now but if the auction ended I still don't get the item. Not as exciting to know that I'd win but lose.

    That said, I understand your reasoning for using one. I'm just giving you a hard time. >>



    I understand that...but you may still get this one for a steal. The reserve is set for multiple times X less than what market value says its worth.

    Last month...this Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley sold at Heritage for $1314.50...and it was GAI graded. Looking at it, I would not even classify it as a Milton Bradley as it does not have the white strip on the front. link

    On the other hand, mine is by BVG and is the real deal...LINK


  • << <i>Apparently she did some research. I suggested on the thread that she send all the cards in to BGS. How much would a BGS 8 or 9 Ryan bring? >>




    The population only stands at 17. There is no 9 or 10. 8 = 1. 7.5=2. 7=1. 6.5 =1. 6 = 3. and my 5.5 = 1. 5.0 = 1

    There are 7, 4.0 and lower. PSA does not make a distinction....so the 17 that exist with BVG are really the only legit, graded ones in existence.

  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭
    This is going up for auction in September '09. I never knew there were football cards as part of this set.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yes and they also had hot rod cars in that set as well.

    You got a mixture of trading cards.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>This is going up for auction in September '09. I never knew there were football cards as part of this set. >>



    THAT should go for a pretty penny!!!!

    I'd LOVE to watch THAT RIP!!!!!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • I think PSA does label these now. Here is the ebay link to a PSA 2

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Milton-Bradley-Topps-177-R-Nolan-Ryan-PSA-2-3681-/130733086951?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item1e704c98e7

    I recently send a Ryan rookie in and they did not grade it saying it was Milton Bradley and I had no idea what they were talking about till I started looking into it. I am going to call them and see if they will grade it if I send it back in and label it correctly.
  • msassinmsassin Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think PSA does label these now. Here is the ebay link to a PSA 2

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Milton-Bradley-Topps-177-R-Nolan-Ryan-PSA-2-3681-/130733086951?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item1e704c98e7

    I recently send a Ryan rookie in and they did not grade it saying it was Milton Bradley and I had no idea what they were talking about till I started looking into it. I am going to call them and see if they will grade it if I send it back in and label it correctly. >>



    Did you pay for it to be graded in the first place? No reason why they shouldn't have graded it as a Milton Bradley.
  • bishopbishop Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭
    There are several recent threads in here on MBs in general and this card specifically ....although there are a few rabbit trails within those threads
    Topps Baseball-1948, 1951 to 2017
    Bowman Baseball -1948-1955
    Fleer Baseball-1923, 1959-2007

    Al
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