The guys got alot of positive feedback but there is that one neg claiming a bad pack. He says no refund but what if I use paypal and send the packs to psa and they reject them would paypal cover me? Anybody know?
Run away as fast as you can. All this guy's packs are 100% FAKE!!
Edit: There is no way PSA or Steve Hart would holder ANY of these packs. Save your money and the headache involved with trying to get a refund in the first place. This guy and another one, rlmh something, have been unloading tons or resealed crap in recent months. Sad really, how many collectors they're ripping off. That's why he has that clause in there about how he has never personally opened the packs but he cannot attest to what happened in the past. Yeah, right, LOL!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Heck NO!!!!!!! I wouldn't touch ANYTHING that guy is selling.
His terms are a gross violation of EBAY's TOS. He is claiming he "does NOT know" if the packs are good. EBAY and PayPal don't play dat. If you cannot guarantee authenticity on EBAY, you cannot hold out the possibility that an item is authentic. It must be listed as "NOT authentic."
Sellers can sell opened packs; they simply say, "I am not sure if these packs have been opened, so I am selling them as opened and resealed packs."
NO seller's TOS trumps PayPal's "the buyer is always the victim" policy. It is just not worth the inevitable hassle that buying stuff from jerks brings.
Baseball Card Exchange has TONS of UNOPENED stuff that is warranted to fly at PSA. Why would I buy from a risky source, when BBCE is in biz?
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WOW i thought this thread was about 80's junk, but when i saw the 60's stuff selling for hundreds, this guy is committing a felony if in fact they are resealed....he has sold THOUSANDS of dollars worth of stuff....
can people be that dumb? people who buy unopened stuff are gamblers at heart and gamblers have clouded perceptions and usually make the wrong call --in many aspects of life unfortunatley...
Stay far way from anybody selling packs out of Pennsylvania. There was a thread along time ago about a guy in this state. Outdoorsportsman or something like that. I bought some packs fom a seller in PA that had a no return policy. I opened some of the packs and several cards had rubber band marks.
Seems like every year or 2 there's a new seller in that area of PA selling resealed packs. Maybe somebody here knows more about that than me, I don't buy packs and can't remember the last couple ebay names.
I also would only trust Steve for the few packs I've opened in the last 10 years.
1st of all the packs look shaky at best Next he guarantees they are unopened but tells u no money back
RED Flag...... avoid at all costs
If these were legit he would have them authenticated I sold many of the 54 1¢ packs for over $75 easily, all because they were graded Look at what he received for his packs Bargain hunters bid on these & ALL lost big time
Too many ebay bidders actually believe in Santa Claus, but in our hobby he don't exist
Remember Greed Kills or in this case cost someone lot's of $$$$
I suppose it requires someone to send in a complaint to EBAY but, if so, they wouldn't remove the auctios? Be a killer for the guy to see multiple auctions killed like that lol...
Check out this users feedback. No items sold. Only buys empty vintage boxes, wrappers and card lots. Has purchased a 1971 Topps baseball lot and a lot of 1971 wrappers. Why would you buy these if you were not planning on making fake packs? Makes you wonder if it is the same guy.
these packs are 100% bad as jim said they are plenty of these guys coming out of pa they multiply like rats...grote you are 100% right about this guy...dont waste your cash...these packs will never come back good from psa....
I actually feel bad for anyone that sells legitiamte packs from the PA area. Seeing that address is pretty much a signal to RUN! PaOutdoorsman, nedsk, and even a few other sellers from PA have been posted about on these forums
Can't tell where people are from as easily anymore on ebay so it's hard to say if that's the same person buying the wrappers. Another raw material buyer is sellonesellall. I personally would not buy wax, racks, cellos trays or funbags from North Carolina as well due to some "unopened" sellers there.
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He says no refund but what if I use paypal and send the packs to psa and they reject them would paypal cover me?
Anybody know?
The vintage pack experts said no.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Edit: There is no way PSA or Steve Hart would holder ANY of these packs. Save your money and the headache involved with trying to get a refund in the first place. This guy and another one, rlmh something, have been unloading tons or resealed crap in recent months. Sad really, how many collectors they're ripping off. That's why he has that clause in there about how he has never personally opened the packs but he cannot attest to what happened in the past. Yeah, right, LOL!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
His terms are a gross violation of EBAY's TOS. He is claiming
he "does NOT know" if the packs are good. EBAY and PayPal
don't play dat. If you cannot guarantee authenticity on EBAY,
you cannot hold out the possibility that an item is authentic.
It must be listed as "NOT authentic."
Sellers can sell opened packs; they simply say, "I am not sure
if these packs have been opened, so I am selling them as
opened and resealed packs."
NO seller's TOS trumps PayPal's "the buyer is always the victim" policy.
It is just not worth the inevitable hassle that buying stuff from jerks brings.
Baseball Card Exchange has TONS of UNOPENED stuff that is
warranted to fly at PSA. Why would I buy from a risky source,
when BBCE is in biz?
can people be that dumb? people who buy unopened stuff are gamblers at heart and gamblers have clouded perceptions and usually make the wrong call --in many aspects of life unfortunatley...
I also would only trust Steve for the few packs I've opened in the last 10 years.
Next he guarantees they are unopened but tells u no money back
RED Flag...... avoid at all costs
If these were legit he would have them authenticated
I sold many of the 54 1¢ packs for over $75 easily, all because they were graded
Look at what he received for his packs
Bargain hunters bid on these & ALL lost big time
Too many ebay bidders actually believe in Santa Claus, but in our hobby he don't exist
Remember Greed Kills or in this case cost someone lot's of $$$$
Check out this users feedback. No items sold. Only buys empty vintage boxes, wrappers and card lots. Has purchased a 1971 Topps baseball lot and a lot of 1971 wrappers. Why would you buy these if you were not planning on making fake packs? Makes you wonder if it is the same guy.
PaOutdoorsman, nedsk, and even a few other sellers from PA have been posted about on these forums