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So what is the order of rarity for the 1972 DDO cents?

DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm sure it's been posted, but I have searched and searched.

Help???
Doug

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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For me, its been:

    Die # 4
    Die # 1
    Die #9
    Die #8
    Die # 6
    Die #7
    Die # 3
    Die # 2
    Die #5, even though PCGS does not recognize it.

    WS
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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Rarity or value? Just Cherrypickers or all CONECA (i.e. include CONECA DDO#10?)?

    Without answering the above, I would say 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 6, 8, 3

    I'm almost positive the above is VERY accurate as to both rarity AND value.

    The new Die 5 (FS-033.55) seems QUITE rare but PCGS doesn't recognize it yet (even though it IS a Cherrypicker).

    There's also a CONECA Die #10 that's not YET a Cherrypicker.

    Honestly, I'm not sure where 5 & 10 fall as they are so new and not enough have been attributed. The rest have MANY years pop data (and sales history) to have "found their level".

    Bob, I'm sure you didn't REALLY mean to list Die #2 as more common/less valuable than Die #3. image

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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RB, I was just going on what I beliveve are thier "availibility' and not related to any current values. As you know, the availibility can change like the wind...

    WS
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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Bob and Roger. I pulled out my 72 DDO's last night to see which ones were actually nice enough to spend grading fees on. I have die 1 already holdered, and a die 2 in a 64 that needs to be reholdered. I have several die 3's and one I think nice enough to send in. Dies 6, 7, and 9 are all RB coins, probably 63-64. Can higher grades be readily found? I'm not seeing any.

    I also have what is supposed to be die 10, but it doesn't match the picture Chuck has on his site.




    (Edited to change 8 to 9 -- I don't have a die 8.)
    Doug
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Hope this answers a bit:

    I think you can definitely find them ALL in 65RD or so with just a bit of patience. 66RD (certainly and higher) seems VERY difficult for ANY of them with the possible exception of the Die #3 (the ONLY 66 I ever made for ANY of them).

    Ken Potter has some 6, 8, & 9's on his site:

    1972/72 1c Doubled Die Obverse Variety-6 (DDO#6) FS#1c-033.6. Nice clockwise doubling on IN GOD WE TRUST, shows on 72 of date and light on portions of LIBERTY. MS63RD $19.95
    1972/72 DOUBLED-DIE 1c Variety-8 (DDO#8) FS#1c-033.8. Nice on Liberty and IGWT. See the Cherrypickers' Guide for pictures. MS60 R&B w/Large Spot on Obv $12.95, MS60/62 R&B $18.00
    1972/72 DOUBLED-DIE 1c Variety#9 (CONECA: DDO-009 and 9-0-V) FS#1c-033.59 Shows nice on the 2. See the Cherrypickers' Guide for pictures. Somewhat scarcer than most the other years MS63RD $14.95, MS64RD $24.95, MS65 $35.00

    Also, just fyi: I got a few DDO-10's from Ken (he calls them Variety 11) and ANACS wouldn't grade them (as such).

    Shameless self-promotion below:

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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are you selling those? Send me a PM if you are.

    Thanks for the info too.
    Doug
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    One last fyi:

    Chuck doesn't have a 4 or 5 (either the old one - formerly listed as MD-5-O-I-CW+II-C- but now listed as MDO-001 - OR the new one - i.e. FS-033.55) on his site

    and his 10 (i.e. Billy's 11): "A strong bar can be seen under the L of LIBERTY",

    is not CONECA's 10: "Medium spread as an extra bar above the 2 of the date".
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gotcha. I have the Coneca 10 which I think is Billy's 11.
    Doug
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    I made a mistake above when I referred to Chuck's 10 as Billy's 10 (but have now edited it to say Billy's 11). image

    Chuck's 10 = Crawford's 11 - NEITHER are the same as CONECA's 10

    Perhaps Brian Allen can shed more light on the CONECA DDO-010 since he reported it.
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's all Wexler's fault for the confusion on numbering (I say that tongue in cheek because I like John).

    Were you selling those 72's or just showing off?
    Doug
  • coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭
    Looks like seomeone has a DD addiction!!
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let me add to that shameless self promotion!
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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
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    Hey Bob, you know that Arnie Battersby from Boston had (and let me stress the past tense here) one in a PCGS mint error holder with a grade of 66RD, right? image
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which die is this one known as?

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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
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  • rabbitracksrabbitracks Posts: 538 ✭✭
    RBinTex, I had a very nice Die#4 65 Red in a PCGS and sent it in for
    attribution to add it to my set. They had the wrong Die for the
    mint error slab and it came back in a PCGS MS65 Die 7 slab.
    It was originally in an SEGS as a Die#4 as well. Bob showed me
    the diagnostics for the Die#7 and it is definitely a Die 7. Win some
    Loose some in the game of REGISTRY. Mike.
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    Someday REAL American HERO's will be on our COINS.
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like you said before RB, MS 66 examples of ANY die are pretty darn scarce. To have a Die #4 in MS 66..Priceless!

    WS
    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice!!!

    Roger, I just checked my notes again on that Die 10 (I can't keep all the numbers straight sometimes@)

    It actually is a Wexler DDO #10, which is cross referenced as the new Coneca Die #5, and FS 33.55.

    Any of you guys have pics of the diagnostics of the new die 5? I bought this from a trusted source, or I wouldn't have bought one I couldn't verify.
    Doug
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
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    No closeups. Sorry. But at least ANACS will attribute it. Not sure about NGC.

    p.s. Brian Allen had this to say (thus far):

    "Roger, I will respond when i get a few minutes. I can tell you that I bought a 1972 CDDO-011 and Billy confirmed it (I also have a CDDO-013) but the CDDO-011 is NOT the DDO-010 or DDO-005. My files show the Coneca DDO-010 the same as WDDO-005. I am not sure....either way, I have both. The coin is currently in the vault. When I get a chance I will pull the coin and take a better look. i may even send it to one of the two parties for verification. Sorry, not much help right now. Brian"

    If he doesn't post anything himself as an update at some point and only e-mails me, I will post it again.
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