Now That's One Beat Up 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle!

JackWESQ · May 1, 2008 4:00PM

I've seen beat up Mantles before, but I think the one pictured below tops them all. Zero feedback notwithstanding, I think this might be a legit auction.

/s/ JackWESQ

Beat Up Mickey Mantle

Estil · May 1, 2008 4:04PM

At least it's affordable!

stevek · May 1, 2008 4:06PM

Sure looks to me like it was recently mutilated. To me it looks like a reprint.

hofautos · May 1, 2008 4:14PM

it's used, that's all.....clothes pins and bicycle spokes....the guy must have been a serious cyclist!

storm888 · May 1, 2008 4:25PM

50/50 chance.

BUT, the surfaces do look a little wrong for the amount of damage.

cubfan89 · May 1, 2008 5:23PM

It looks like Rosie Odonnel had sex on the poor card!

stevek · May 1, 2008 9:54PM

<< 50/50 chance.

BUT, the surfaces do look a little wrong for the amount of damage. >>

Yes, that's what struck me right away at first glance, and to those like you and me who have handled and seen many, many, many thousands of 50's baseball cards, the first glance, IE the first inclination, is usually correct.

We'll see - this guy seems to portray himself as some "bigtime" type memorabilia seller, and he does have some very interesting stuff listed. Maybe some here know him - I'm not up to speed on every baseball memorabilia dealer in the US as some are here.

In any event, I wouldn't want a card looking like that even if it was genuine...just doesn't appeal to me...especially for whatever money it's going to sell for in that slab.

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stevek · May 1, 2008 10:07PM

<< it's used, that's all.....clothes pins and bicycle spokes....the guy must have been a serious cyclist! >>

Yes, that's understandable, having done that as a kid. But normally when doing that, then that card is not going to be stored in any type of decent manner...and the damaged areas usually age with a certain appearance. Perhaps the card was "professionally" cleaned and bleached which is what is throwing me off a bit from looking at the scan. I wouldn't be surprised if the slab was cracked and the card removed, that this card would smell like Clorox. In any event...I'm not interested in bidding on the card anyway.

stown · May 2, 2008 12:19AM

<< 

<< 50/50 chance.

BUT, the surfaces do look a little wrong for the amount of damage. >>

Yes, that's what struck me right away at first glance, and to those like you and me who have handled and seen many, many, many thousands of 50's baseball cards, the first glance, IE the first inclination, is usually correct.

We'll see - this guy seems to portray himself as some "bigtime" type memorabilia seller, and he does have some very interesting stuff listed. Maybe some here know him - I'm not up to speed on every baseball memorabilia dealer in the US as some are here.

In any event, I wouldn't want a card looking like that even if it was genuine...just doesn't appeal to me...especially for whatever money it's going to sell for in that slab.

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Agreed.

IMO, someone pulled a fast one on BGS.

Perhaps it was folded a couple of times and then put in a washing machine.

Left side paper loss and top wear just looks too odd..

sagard · May 2, 2008 1:16AM

The looks to me like what is represented on the holder. No more, no less.

I'm confident it's the real deal, possibly soaked or cleaned to get a little fresher appearance. But really when a card is only 95% whole those other issues don't really bother me.

Allen · May 2, 2008 1:23AM

I think it is a real card.

fandango · May 2, 2008 4:22AM

that a professionally aged card, its a fake.

Ahmanfan · May 2, 2008 4:32AM

Looks real to me.

pandrews · May 2, 2008 4:34AM

its a legit, crappy looking '52 Mantle.

SportsItUpCards · May 2, 2008 4:38AM

Nice!!!!!!

I love when vintage cards are beat up, for some reason I like them when it shows some age.

Giovanni

SportsItUpCards · May 2, 2008 4:41AM

Oh yeah, and its in a BVG holder which I wouldn't trust, so you never know if its real or fake.

Giovanni

fandango · May 2, 2008 4:43AM

you can tell its a fake by the left rip, the grey cardboard would not look so new and perfect, it would have aged (and more quickly) then a non ripped area...

from my 1914 CJ experience

bifff257 · May 2, 2008 4:43AM

<< We'll see - this guy seems to portray himself as some "bigtime" type memorabilia seller, and he does have some very interesting stuff listed. >>

I like this auction.....

Gaylord Perry auto vaseline jar

JackWESQ · May 2, 2008 10:42AM

... okay then. How about this one by comparison?

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 1

bluemarlin · May 2, 2008 10:56AM

Not much better,Atleast it has it's borders intact.

stevek · May 2, 2008 1:02PM

<< ... okay then. How about this one by comparison?

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 1

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You can see the difference in the aging between the two cards where the bad creases occur - the PSA card creases are like a dull white which is natural aging, versus the other card creases which are a bright white. Could be the "flash" from the camera made the first card appear brighter, but I still think the first card could be a reprint. With contemplation...I agree with Storm on the 50/50 thing being about right.

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nightcrawler · May 2, 2008 3:17PM

Ya, it has to be fake, BVG couldn't possibly see with card in hand, what we can see by the scan.

Boy, did they get duped.

SportsItUpCards · May 2, 2008 3:24PM

<< ... okay then. How about this one by comparison?

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 1

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Now thats a nice one!

Giovanni

Now That's One Beat Up 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle!

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